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Old 11-17-2010, 01:23 PM   #1
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Jeff, My 1964 NHRA Classification Guide says: '57 T-bird Convertible @ 10.47 pwFt. That's 3141 pounds. (natural "E" class car). The T-85 trans was strong enough in the old days, and there are C-4 to "Y" Block bellhousings. Spec was 6# boost @ 4600 RPM's and 1# more for each 1000 RPM's. Would the powers that be, allow a superceded blower?

Interesting, Fred

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Old 11-17-2010, 03:01 PM   #2
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I believe Amos Minter, TBird restorer extraordinaire, has one for a quarter of a million then all you have to do is convert it to a race car, hand build ALL of your racing parts, test, build more expensive parts and have a race car.......simple!

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Old 11-17-2010, 08:11 PM   #3
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My best friend, Charles Venoski, and his father Stanley. This car was the two four barrel version but was available with the supercharger. I think the carbed version was 290 hp. This car was run at Marion, il; Sturgis, ky;Alton,il during the very early 60's.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:42 AM   #4
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Dual quads were rated at 270 hp std cam and 285 with the E-2 cam which was used later in the Blower cars as I rememer the E-2 cam was also a Pontiac option in 57 or 58 and the E2 was a Isky grind that several of the Auto companys used


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My best friend, Charles Venoski, and his father Stanley. This car was the two four barrel version but was available with the supercharger. I think the carbed version was 290 hp. This car was run at Marion, il; Sturgis, ky;Alton,il during the very early 60's.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:26 PM   #5
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If I remember right, the '57 Tri Power Pontiacs had a dealer-installed option of a solid lifter cam. It may have been an Isky e-2 or e-3.... I dunno. Maybe someone else will remember that. I think this was in the pre-McKellar days...

One such vehicle, owned by Tulsa's John Zink won the top stock class at the '57 NHRA Nationals in Oklahoma City, that year. I think he ran 96 MPH, on street tires, with mufflers, and with the air cleaner on.

"Stock" meant STOCK, in those days.
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If I remember right, the '57 Tri Power Pontiacs had a dealer-installed option of a solid lifter cam. It may have been an Isky e-2 or e-3.... I dunno. Maybe someone else will remember that. I think this was in the pre-McKellar days...

One such vehicle, owned by Tulsa's John Zink won the top stock class at the '57 NHRA Nationals in Oklahoma City, that year. I think he ran 96 MPH, on street tires, with mufflers, and with the air cleaner on.

"Stock" meant STOCK, in those days.
Isky E-2 with solid lifters.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:37 PM   #7
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Thanks, Terry.

I HOPE NHRA brings these Pontiacs back along with the Chevies, whewn they do this.

Those, along with the blown Ford and Studes, would sure make for some interesting racing!!!
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:38 PM   #8
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Jeff, My 1964 NHRA Classification Guide says: '57 T-bird Convertible @ 10.47 pwFt. That's 3141 pounds. (natural "E" class car). The T-85 trans was strong enough in the old days, and there are C-4 to "Y" Block bellhousings. Spec was 6# boost @ 4600 RPM's and 1# more for each 1000 RPM's. Would the powers that be, allow a superceded blower?

Interesting, Fred
...only if that blower company is the "Official Blower Co. of the NHRA"....LOL
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The big problem is there are no 1957 Fords in the class guide
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The big problem is there are no 1957 Fords in the class guide
All of these old combos were in the old Red binder class guide. Someone must have kept a copy?
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