Let me get this straight. - Page 3

Jeff Lee · 10-03-2010, 10:52 PM

You price a weekend with your Viper or other SCCA car for a weekend of competitive racing for a trophy?
People will spend a lot of money for the love of a sport and ego's usually go hand-in-hand with that. If there were no ego's in motorsports, we wouldn't know you were a past champion, now would we?

By the way, I have an open trailer and an SUV that I use to haul my best appearing AMX!

greg fulk · 10-04-2010, 01:07 AM

My dad told me along time ago "Jake" (that's what he calls me) you can't put a price on entertainment. Well dad races for money & dose quite well @ the local track 5 miles away.....he was 8th in the IHRA Div. 3 points in 2006. But anyway I love class racing...& not just stock. I like SS TS TD I would love to have a S/ST to beat on week in week out but I have a stocker. 1989 I had a Nova drove to the track opened up the headers put on slicks & ran 8.10's in the 1/8......21 years later with a pick-up & enclosed I unload & run 7.90's 1/8mile???? went from a gutted Nova with a 350 to a 3600lbs Cutlass with a 307 but running about the same times....so it's all in what ya want. The MAIN thing is have fun! That's the reason we ALL started doing this!

Bob Mulry · 10-04-2010, 03:56 AM

Hi all,

Started out flat towing with a pick-up truck and then I started upgrading my program.......

I built a set of tow hubs for the racecar so that I didn't have to drop the driveshaft to get to the track...

Next, I stepped up and bought a Chevy Suburban to tow with to keep my "stuff" out of the weather...

Next, it was a trailer with no fenders and no brakes, but it was better than flat towing...

Because of all the "Extra" stuff that has to go along to the track, I now have a 1 ton Dodge Dually towing a 28' Pace Shadow trailer..

As the amount of stuff (you know golf carts, spare trans & engine) increases the ability to get it to the track decreases....

So I guess that my next upgrade will be a 48' 5th wheel with living quarters that I can tow behind the dually...

By the way, this upgrading started in 1966 and I don't have any idea when it will stop...

I just hope that it's a long time from now...

Bob

Billy Pires · 10-04-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JSLRacing

Some Stock and Super Stock racers bring their cars to the track in stacker haulers much like a Nascar Hauler. This hauler would get around 5 mpg on a good day..

So people drive across country spending thousands on fuel, spend $300 plus for entry fee, plus fuel for the car and hotel room... to win a few thousand if they win the race.

Is this some sort of ego thing as it does not make very good financial sense to travel this way?

Please tell me if I'm wrong here..

If you havn't noticed racers in stock and super stock with pick up trucks and open trailers or ramp trucks then that pretty much tells me you dont go to the races. As far as drivers/teams with toterhomes and stackers, that doesnt mean they have any kind of advantage over racers with smaller operations. If they want to travel that way, why shouldnt they.

James Perrone · 10-04-2010, 10:00 AM

JSL Wake UP
Its 2010 not 1997 when you raced .
Go back under your rock.
I didnt by my motorhome for lack of milage.
Its about being comfotable.
Now enjoy you trailer and foldup chair at Norwalk in July.

darkside · 10-04-2010, 10:21 AM

I have never seen a rig win a race! However, I love big rigs.

After reading your post, sounds like you need a new wife and maybe not worry so much about what other people have.

JSLRacing · 10-04-2010, 11:22 AM

ouch.. you guys are harsh

dragracer9911 · 10-04-2010, 11:42 AM

Jason, we all race at the the level that we and only we can race. My son and I both bracket race at our local track (MIR). My son also races in a traveling series (RAM). We take my granddaughter's to the loacl races. We have one truck and a 16' open trailer with a box on the front. We haul a generator and scooter in the truck bed. He takes one car to the track and leaves it outside the gate, then comes back home to get the second car, the girls and myself. Then we go back to the track at the gate opening. We have had more fun this year than ever before. It's a hassel, but we are doing it together as a family. We cook at the track on a $20.00 grill. We pack water and huggies in a cooler. Everyone at the track enjoys me riding my girls on the scooter to the playground or bathroom. Racing, like everything else in life, is all what you make of it. I would love to race a stock or superstock car. It's not in the budget for us and never will be. I dream about hitting the Lotto sure, but I am very happy just to do something speacila with my family. My wife comes down every now and then, but she is our biggest supporter. Enjoy what you do.

Carl Juliano · 10-04-2010, 10:25 AM

Like James said, its all about comfort and convenience, having a motorhome and stacker allows the 3 of us to travel together and stay at the track and be comfortable in extreme weather. We used to tow to divisionals with an open trailer, then upgraded to an enclosed. When we got the second car we used to have 2 separate trailers and trucks......made more sense for us to go the stacker route and be all together. To each their own.

Mike McCandless · 10-04-2010, 10:40 AM

The only reason I got out of racing is because I didn't have a place to park a 70' rig. Why would I buy such a thing?

1) Self contained. I eat very healthy and prefer having my own food vs anything a track offers.

2) No hotel worries as pointed out by previous person. Average hotel is 100 bucks a night these days.

3) I was able to stay on top of work while traveling. These races usually require 4-5 days of traveling, something I couldn't do if I had no internet access.

4) My business would own it and I'd rather buy it vs give uncle sam more cash.

5) We were hauling 2 cars, 2 jr's (for my nephews) and a golf cart. Try fitting that in your 28' trailer.

It's the cost of the hobby. I started racing to get away from work. When I first stated, tracks had no internet access. I'd race locally and not have to worry about what was going on at work. Then I got the bug and wanted more. Then realized it was a full time commitment that I wasn't ready to give at this point in my life. So I sold it all, bought some old cars and hang out with my dad at cruise in's. In a few years I'll be back into racing, although more from a sponsor side vs driving.

Don't be pissed that people married a person that supports their hobbies. Don't be pissed that some have done better than others that allow them to have such things. You can win with almost anything. Some do it with more comfort than others. I can honestly I would likely LOSE money not having those things. However, my business model may be different than most.

10-03-2010, 10:52 PM	#1
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Let me get this straight. You price a weekend with your Viper or other SCCA car for a weekend of competitive racing for a trophy? People will spend a lot of money for the love of a sport and ego's usually go hand-in-hand with that. If there were no ego's in motorsports, we wouldn't know you were a past champion, now would we? By the way, I have an open trailer and an SUV that I use to haul my best appearing AMX! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX Last edited by Jeff Lee; 10-03-2010 at 11:04 PM.

10-04-2010, 01:07 AM	#2
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Let me get this straight. My dad told me along time ago "Jake" (that's what he calls me) you can't put a price on entertainment. Well dad races for money & dose quite well @ the local track 5 miles away.....he was 8th in the IHRA Div. 3 points in 2006. But anyway I love class racing...& not just stock. I like SS TS TD I would love to have a S/ST to beat on week in week out but I have a stocker. 1989 I had a Nova drove to the track opened up the headers put on slicks & ran 8.10's in the 1/8......21 years later with a pick-up & enclosed I unload & run 7.90's 1/8mile???? went from a gutted Nova with a 350 to a 3600lbs Cutlass with a 307 but running about the same times....so it's all in what ya want. The MAIN thing is have fun! That's the reason we ALL started doing this! __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

10-04-2010, 03:56 AM	#3
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Let me get this straight. Hi all, Started out flat towing with a pick-up truck and then I started upgrading my program....... I built a set of tow hubs for the racecar so that I didn't have to drop the driveshaft to get to the track... Next, I stepped up and bought a Chevy Suburban to tow with to keep my "stuff" out of the weather... Next, it was a trailer with no fenders and no brakes, but it was better than flat towing... Because of all the "Extra" stuff that has to go along to the track, I now have a 1 ton Dodge Dually towing a 28' Pace Shadow trailer.. As the amount of stuff (you know golf carts, spare trans & engine) increases the ability to get it to the track decreases.... So I guess that my next upgrade will be a 48' 5th wheel with living quarters that I can tow behind the dually... By the way, this upgrading started in 1966 and I don't have any idea when it will stop... I just hope that it's a long time from now... Bob __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

10-04-2010, 10:00 AM	#5
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,697 Likes: 3,442 Liked 1,863 Times in 435 Posts	Re: Let me get this straight. JSL Wake UP Its 2010 not 1997 when you raced . Go back under your rock. I didnt by my motorhome for lack of milage. Its about being comfotable. Now enjoy you trailer and foldup chair at Norwalk in July. __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

10-04-2010, 10:21 AM	#6
darkside Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 56 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Let me get this straight. I have never seen a rig win a race! However, I love big rigs. After reading your post, sounds like you need a new wife and maybe not worry so much about what other people have. __________________ Lynn Ellison

10-04-2010, 11:22 AM	#7
JSLRacing Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bothwell,ON Posts: 131 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Let me get this straight. ouch.. you guys are harsh __________________ Jason Goldsack - 1997 Track Champion - St. Thomas Dragway 1997 Race of Champions Winner - Indianapolis, IN Div. 3 finals

10-04-2010, 11:42 AM	#8
dragracer9911 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 75 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Let me get this straight. Jason, we all race at the the level that we and only we can race. My son and I both bracket race at our local track (MIR). My son also races in a traveling series (RAM). We take my granddaughter's to the loacl races. We have one truck and a 16' open trailer with a box on the front. We haul a generator and scooter in the truck bed. He takes one car to the track and leaves it outside the gate, then comes back home to get the second car, the girls and myself. Then we go back to the track at the gate opening. We have had more fun this year than ever before. It's a hassel, but we are doing it together as a family. We cook at the track on a $20.00 grill. We pack water and huggies in a cooler. Everyone at the track enjoys me riding my girls on the scooter to the playground or bathroom. Racing, like everything else in life, is all what you make of it. I would love to race a stock or superstock car. It's not in the budget for us and never will be. I dream about hitting the Lotto sure, but I am very happy just to do something speacila with my family. My wife comes down every now and then, but she is our biggest supporter. Enjoy what you do.

10-04-2010, 10:25 AM	#9
Carl Juliano Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Queens, NYC Posts: 295 Likes: 237 Liked 64 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Let me get this straight. Like James said, its all about comfort and convenience, having a motorhome and stacker allows the 3 of us to travel together and stay at the track and be comfortable in extreme weather. We used to tow to divisionals with an open trailer, then upgraded to an enclosed. When we got the second car we used to have 2 separate trailers and trucks......made more sense for us to go the stacker route and be all together. To each their own. __________________ Carl Juliano TS 1275 John Juliano SG 151 Carl Sr.

10-04-2010, 10:40 AM	#10
Mike McCandless Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 129 Likes: 3 Liked 477 Times in 43 Posts	Re: Let me get this straight. The only reason I got out of racing is because I didn't have a place to park a 70' rig. Why would I buy such a thing? 1) Self contained. I eat very healthy and prefer having my own food vs anything a track offers. 2) No hotel worries as pointed out by previous person. Average hotel is 100 bucks a night these days. 3) I was able to stay on top of work while traveling. These races usually require 4-5 days of traveling, something I couldn't do if I had no internet access. 4) My business would own it and I'd rather buy it vs give uncle sam more cash. 5) We were hauling 2 cars, 2 jr's (for my nephews) and a golf cart. Try fitting that in your 28' trailer. It's the cost of the hobby. I started racing to get away from work. When I first stated, tracks had no internet access. I'd race locally and not have to worry about what was going on at work. Then I got the bug and wanted more. Then realized it was a full time commitment that I wasn't ready to give at this point in my life. So I sold it all, bought some old cars and hang out with my dad at cruise in's. In a few years I'll be back into racing, although more from a sponsor side vs driving. Don't be pissed that people married a person that supports their hobbies. Don't be pissed that some have done better than others that allow them to have such things. You can win with almost anything. Some do it with more comfort than others. I can honestly I would likely LOSE money not having those things. However, my business model may be different than most.