Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? - Page 3

charlie westcott · 09-16-2010, 09:31 PM

I really dont see why anyone other than a hemi in SS would want to run them. You dont need a Ti valve to turn a typical SS engine past the point of their cyl. heads capabilities.
We have the stuff to make power @ 9500, Last time I built a 327, it peaked @ 7800. I dont really see what the big deal is, you dont have to use them if you dont want to.
I got an email from NHRA tech a while back asking me how much I spent on cranks, cause they were wondering if they should turn loose billets. I asked about that last year also, because I wanted to make some changes to the cranks that the current forgings wouldnt handle. I figured out how to work with what I had, and didnt persue it anymore. The facts are a billet crank is only a couple hundred more than a comparable forging, like the valve deal. I dont hear anyone crying about the billets, maybe thats a benefit to the ones that are starting a letter writing campaign against the valves. Like I said I dont care either way, just tell me what the rules are so I can plan my next move.

David Barton · 09-18-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie westcott

I dont know if David is implying that I asked for this, but last year, after indy, I asked them to consider it. After I went to Jesel, and we got it to spin to 10,900 clean, with steel valves that weigh 148 grams, I didnt really care anymore. I hadnt heard a word about it until jeff K. told me at indy it was a done deal. I said whatever. Just let me know what the rules are, and I will figure out how to deal with them.
cw

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Originally Posted by charlie westcott

I got an email from NHRA tech a while back asking me how much I spent on cranks, cause they were wondering if they should turn loose billets. I asked about that last year also, because I wanted to make some changes to the cranks that the current forgings wouldnt handle. I figured out how to work with what I had, and didnt persue it anymore. Like I said I dont care either way, just tell me what the rules are so I can plan my next move.

Make up your mind, Charlie.

One minute you're saying, "I don't care, just tell me what the rules are", and the next you're asking NHRA to change rules to solve your problems.

How about I plan the next move for you, Its really simple. Stick to the rule book. Its guys like you that are killing the originality of the class.

FINESPLINE · 09-18-2010, 06:12 PM

I understand the idea of of Ti valves but it is not allowed in SS. The last time everyone looked -SS/AH was part of SS eliminater. So for the want of the few , everyone will be (forced ), well not forced, but in this competitive sport ,will run them for fear of giving up an edge to the competition.
I have never met Charlie Westcott but I do like his attitude. You can,t beat-------just tell me the rules so I know what to work with.

FINESPLINE · 09-18-2010, 06:22 PM

Oh , one more thing------As far as the NHRA tech dept. allowing Stock and S/Stock to morph into what we have today . Whatever they allow or disallow they should be geared to check it at teardown. I don't believe I have to cite examples. They created this monster-----now corral it.

09-16-2010, 09:31 PM	#1
charlie westcott Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 131 Likes: 0 Liked 216 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? I really dont see why anyone other than a hemi in SS would want to run them. You dont need a Ti valve to turn a typical SS engine past the point of their cyl. heads capabilities. We have the stuff to make power @ 9500, Last time I built a 327, it peaked @ 7800. I dont really see what the big deal is, you dont have to use them if you dont want to. I got an email from NHRA tech a while back asking me how much I spent on cranks, cause they were wondering if they should turn loose billets. I asked about that last year also, because I wanted to make some changes to the cranks that the current forgings wouldnt handle. I figured out how to work with what I had, and didnt persue it anymore. The facts are a billet crank is only a couple hundred more than a comparable forging, like the valve deal. I dont hear anyone crying about the billets, maybe thats a benefit to the ones that are starting a letter writing campaign against the valves. Like I said I dont care either way, just tell me what the rules are so I can plan my next move.

09-18-2010, 06:12 PM	#3
FINESPLINE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Island of high taxes, N.Y. Posts: 541 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? I understand the idea of of Ti valves but it is not allowed in SS. The last time everyone looked -SS/AH was part of SS eliminater. So for the want of the few , everyone will be (forced ), well not forced, but in this competitive sport ,will run them for fear of giving up an edge to the competition. I have never met Charlie Westcott but I do like his attitude. You can,t beat-------just tell me the rules so I know what to work with.

09-18-2010, 06:22 PM	#4
FINESPLINE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Island of high taxes, N.Y. Posts: 541 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Titanium Valves Allowed in S/S? Oh , one more thing------As far as the NHRA tech dept. allowing Stock and S/Stock to morph into what we have today . Whatever they allow or disallow they should be geared to check it at teardown. I don't believe I have to cite examples. They created this monster-----now corral it.