Why Aren't You Racing? - Page 3

John DiBartolomeo · 07-03-2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Better round money? Not everyone can win or runner up at the events and better round money would go a long way to help pay the towing gas bills, etc. to make the weekend a little less expensive.

That's all well and good. But racers have to start looking at the round money rather than just what's on top. As an example, we've had dozens of high dollar bracket races that pay big money on top, but you have to go four and five rounds to even get your entry money back.

AC · 07-03-2010, 07:08 AM

I think john is right about the round money, anything and everything helps. When i raced i never raced to make money, i would have loved to win a race (best i went was three rounds) but racing and the people were what brought me out.

The other problem with track time is the curfew some tracks have or the starting time. I think if they could cut it down to two days more people would run the events.

tim worner · 07-03-2010, 09:29 AM

Good example will be next weekend,Jul 10-11,@Beaver Springs. Stock Super Stock combo race as part of the York US 30 reunion show. Come Sat. test&tune all day for $30 camp or park your rig overnight and be part of the show Sun for & $125 100% payback and a fabulous show and great time. The only excuse can be it's to far to travel or you died.

X-TECH MAN · 07-03-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tim worner

Good example will be next weekend,Jul 10-11,@Beaver Springs. Stock Super Stock combo race as part of the York US 30 reunion show. Come Sat. test&tune all day for $30 camp or park your rig overnight and be part of the show Sun for & $125 100% payback and a fabulous show and great time. The only excuse can be it's to far to travel or you died.

Im coming up from Florida just to watch.....No car yet......Im not dead YET even though some would wish I would drop dead and not post on this forum anymore.....lol. . Will be at York on Sat. and Carlise on Friday. Hope the weather is good and no rain.

GRAPE · 07-04-2010, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tim worner

Good example will be next weekend,Jul 10-11,@Beaver Springs. Stock Super Stock combo race as part of the York US 30 reunion show. Come Sat. test&tune all day for $30 camp or park your rig overnight and be part of the show Sun for & $125 100% payback and a fabulous show and great time. The only excuse can be it's to far to travel or you died.

Does this event have a year restriction on the Stock /Super Stock Combo?
Pre 1975 ?

AC · 07-02-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by John DiBartolomeo

OK, so we've heard all the excuses as to dwindling car counts and there's probably dozens of others. Let's change this around and how about what can be done about it? And forget the fact of the economy or the a change in government. That'll probably never happen. What would it take to get you to come to a race? Why go to one and not another?

John i think one of the biggest problems is having to take days off of work. Yeah once in a while is fine but for some its hard. I still dont understand why the NHRA can not complete a divisional in two days.

I have been hanging around some scca guys, 1. you could not believe how cheap you could get into a road car, 2. the track time is unreal, 3. its usually one or two days on the weekend!

X-TECH MAN · 07-02-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AC

John i think one of the biggest problems is having to take days off of work. Yeah once in a while is fine but for some its hard. I still dont understand why the NHRA can not complete a divisional in two days.

A few words and some dont want to hear this.......Alcohol cars, S/C, S/G, and S/ST before PLUS now its T/S and T/D also included into the mix. Its like putting 10 lbs of poop into a 1 pound bag.

Billy Nees · 07-02-2010, 05:50 PM

I won my first points race in 1986. It cost me $60 to enter and I made almost $5000 (in Super Street). Today It costs me $170 to get in the gate and if I win the race I can't make $2300 (in Stock)! I've heard all the stories about how everyones expenses have increased BUT (Beaver Bob's words) put the pen to paper! I'm spending 3 times the entry for 1/2 the earnings IF I win. I just can't keep from feeling like someone is laughing their a** off and wondering just how stupid I really am. That is why I've been sticking close to my local track, racing a car that I can't possibly take seriously and trying to learn how to have FUN again!

Ed Fernandez · 07-02-2010, 06:36 PM

Billy,I bet you still have some of that $5,500 left:>):>)
Someone said earlier "how bad do you want to race"?.I do what I have to do.First off I'm no spring chicken anymore (65).Reasonably good health.My car is low budget.I haul my car in an 18' enclosed that has all the amenities I need to stay at the track.Sleeping,cook
ing,entertainment,shower/toilet accommodations.I do it by leaving the car outside and covered.My truck is a1999 Dodge Dakota with a 5.2 (318) that gets from 9.5 to 11.00
mpg on plus grade gas.I just did Norwalk for $700(1K miles round trip).Englishtown for $340 (I live 5 miles from the track.Luckily I made round money at both.I also make racing money towing cars on the side,when the jobs are available.I don't have and wouldn't want a motor home or any of the big monstrosities at the track.I own all my stuff.I don't have to worry about any notes being called in or a repo co. tracking me down.And I enjoy myself with my circle of friends.Some races we suck at racing,but we eat well.

D.Harvey32 · 07-10-2010, 09:43 PM

Nothing in racing either NHRA or IHRA has been the same since I was a kid. It was fun back then and I couldn't wait for my time because I'd see everything come to play without a big pain in the wallet. Now all I hear is how unfair everything is. NHRA and IHRA are trying to push the 95% of wats the holding the organization together, away. In other words, the sportsman classes. We pay too much, using so little just to have a small gaurantee of a miniscule winning money. Pro classes dont' pay anything to enter an can walk away with abt $50,000 or $500,00, i forget. They dont even have to pay for much getting there because they have their big name sponsors. So many changes in the competition makes going to national events unapealing. I feel asheamed of how expensive the sport is getting and how much neglect the 95% of the organization is getting jus to try to increase the people in the stands.... ITS ACTUALLY PUSHING THEM AWAY by the way.......

07-03-2010, 07:08 AM	#2
AC Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 170 Likes: 29 Liked 66 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Why Aren't You Racing? I think john is right about the round money, anything and everything helps. When i raced i never raced to make money, i would have loved to win a race (best i went was three rounds) but racing and the people were what brought me out. The other problem with track time is the curfew some tracks have or the starting time. I think if they could cut it down to two days more people would run the events.

07-03-2010, 09:29 AM	#3
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Why Aren't You Racing? Good example will be next weekend,Jul 10-11,@Beaver Springs. Stock Super Stock combo race as part of the York US 30 reunion show. Come Sat. test&tune all day for $30 camp or park your rig overnight and be part of the show Sun for & $125 100% payback and a fabulous show and great time. The only excuse can be it's to far to travel or you died. __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

07-02-2010, 05:50 PM	#8
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,504 Likes: 3,606 Liked 7,814 Times in 1,748 Posts	Re: Why Aren't You Racing? I won my first points race in 1986. It cost me $60 to enter and I made almost $5000 (in Super Street). Today It costs me $170 to get in the gate and if I win the race I can't make $2300 (in Stock)! I've heard all the stories about how everyones expenses have increased BUT (Beaver Bob's words) put the pen to paper! I'm spending 3 times the entry for 1/2 the earnings IF I win. I just can't keep from feeling like someone is laughing their a** off and wondering just how stupid I really am. That is why I've been sticking close to my local track, racing a car that I can't possibly take seriously and trying to learn how to have FUN again! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

07-02-2010, 06:36 PM	#9
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Why Aren't You Racing? Billy,I bet you still have some of that $5,500 left:>):>) Someone said earlier "how bad do you want to race"?.I do what I have to do.First off I'm no spring chicken anymore (65).Reasonably good health.My car is low budget.I haul my car in an 18' enclosed that has all the amenities I need to stay at the track.Sleeping,cook ing,entertainment,shower/toilet accommodations.I do it by leaving the car outside and covered.My truck is a1999 Dodge Dakota with a 5.2 (318) that gets from 9.5 to 11.00 mpg on plus grade gas.I just did Norwalk for $700(1K miles round trip).Englishtown for $340 (I live 5 miles from the track.Luckily I made round money at both.I also make racing money towing cars on the side,when the jobs are available.I don't have and wouldn't want a motor home or any of the big monstrosities at the track.I own all my stuff.I don't have to worry about any notes being called in or a repo co. tracking me down.And I enjoy myself with my circle of friends.Some races we suck at racing,but we eat well. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

07-10-2010, 09:43 PM	#10
D.Harvey32 Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why Aren't You Racing? Nothing in racing either NHRA or IHRA has been the same since I was a kid. It was fun back then and I couldn't wait for my time because I'd see everything come to play without a big pain in the wallet. Now all I hear is how unfair everything is. NHRA and IHRA are trying to push the 95% of wats the holding the organization together, away. In other words, the sportsman classes. We pay too much, using so little just to have a small gaurantee of a miniscule winning money. Pro classes dont' pay anything to enter an can walk away with abt $50,000 or $500,00, i forget. They dont even have to pay for much getting there because they have their big name sponsors. So many changes in the competition makes going to national events unapealing. I feel asheamed of how expensive the sport is getting and how much neglect the 95% of the organization is getting jus to try to increase the people in the stands.... ITS ACTUALLY PUSHING THEM AWAY by the way.......