Drooze has left the..........

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Chris, get an old mopar racing manual and pay close attention to the front suspension section.

Thanks, any idea where to get my hands on one, or an exact title ?

[Adger Smith]

Drooze here is a little reading for you....
Read and study this: http://www.racetec.cc/shope/
It is not something you can not do in one visit. There are so many between the lines bits of information that you will find yourself re reading it.
If you have minimal engineering or mechanical skills you should enjoy this site.
From the site:


Bill is a guy that fits the term, been there done that...No re inventing the wheel... Good sound engineering.
(form site):
Bill is a retired automotive engineer. While employed at Chrysler, he was one of the original members of the Ramchargers and was responsible for rear suspension setup of the club's record-holding C/A. He taught at the General Motors Institute and was a faculty advisor for the Institute's motorsports club, the Firebirds.

Bill has lectured in thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, physics, classical mechanics, advanced calculus, and differential equations at the college level. Most recently, he taught a graduate level engineering course on vehicle dynamics (using Race Car Vehicle Dynamics, by William and Douglas Milliken, as the text) at the University of Central Florida.

Bill was a guest speaker at the 1998 SAE Motorsports Conference and has personal dragracing experience dating back to the mid '50s.

I hope you enjoy it and it helps your program/learning curve.
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[Larry Munk]

Originally Posted by Chris "drooze" Wertman

Thanks, any idea where to get my hands on one, or an exact title ?

It's Called;
Direct Connection Performance Book
Racing tips from the facory experts for Mopars Dating back to 1958.
Chryser corp. pn. P4120792

Got mine in 1980 at the Plymouth Dealer. It was a Direct Connection Item.
You may find one on e-bay.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Chris "drooze" Wertman

It will take almost 1.5 weeks to get the internet connection at the shop so....for 16 hr days ... ill be OFFLINE.....aaaa....a welcome relief to some Im sure Ive got a scavenging header setup that may give NHRA Techs a stroke but dosent say it cant be done, a lesson from tuned resonance on two strokes Never seen a resonance stinger on a Stocker, but why not ?

Why not? Because you are not working with a two-stroke engine. There are a lot of more parameters involved in designing a header for a four-stroke V-8 when compared to a two-stroke. Like Adger Smith told you before, quit comparing the technology and your experience with bikes as applied to four-stroke, V-8 engines. I sometimes believe this way of thinking may have been the culprit to many of the problems with the DP.

[johnny shot]

Who or what did you move away from? Your dad? Your sponsor? The ex? I get that you're tired of something at the old place but who or what?

[John Quinn]

Originally Posted by Chris "drooze" Wertman

All the complete goofy ideas I can come up with and weld together. (Or more correctly have our master welder Damon weld together) Ive got a scavenging header setup that may give NHRA Techs a stroke but dosent say it cant be done, a lesson from tuned resonance on two strokes Never seen a resonance stinger on a Stocker, but why not ? And a few other Drooze Ideas like a Dry Differential....no rule says it has to have fluid in it

You're just a youngster. I have seen all sorts of header tuning tried in my years of racing including what you are contemplating. Years later all those wierd header are hanging in sombodys garage as wall decorations. Have fun.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by John Quinn

You're just a youngster. I have seen all sorts of header tuning tried in my years of racing including what you are contemplating. Years later all those wierd header are hanging in sombodys garage as wall decorations. Have fun.

No doubts, but trying dosent hurt....

Years ago I was told I couldnt build my own Pulsejet engine (a big one) as in over 100 lbs static thrust, well....after a year of getting every imaginable drawing and research info from the curator at WPAFB museum....guess what, I not only could build, but designed my own. Working with Tim Arfons on every bit of info and measurments of all the valve bodies they had from Argus AS400s and the Ford Loon Copies....Well....I did....what I learned from that I consider unique. And it has direct application here, I believe.

Resonance frequency.....2 simple words, to get it RIGHT is a miracle at times but it dosent mean I wont try, why ? Because I have the materials, I have the knowledge and I have the ambition, and Im willing to labor.

I am building a simple straight forward running car FIRST....Just like we did with the DP, someone else said they though my "ambitions" may have caused DP problems....if youve ever seen the DP in person, its about as simple and straight forward as can be, the only thing, and its not caused issue, are the coatings and the header design, I worked with someone VERY well established in the Stocker Header arena, because I heard he was going the same route I wanted to with these , GET the exhaust velocity UP, its essential with these engines. so a 3 step instead of a 2 , not rocket science, that comes next

Also in answer, what I am tired of is not having my own schedule, no issues with my father other than worn nerves, you cant spend 16 hrs a day 7 days a week with someone for 8 months without it. But that takes only a few days to rectify, what I was tired of were the plans, MY plans that were put on hold by the DP, I had/have my own ambitions, its hard however to go in the shop and not work on it, next to impossible. Soooo....my father wanted a month or 2 off, he got it, meanwhile we can concentrate on the efforts I wanted. In the end competition BETWEEN my father and I is something we absolutley relish, beyond working together its working againt each other. It took me 20 years to beat him at a game of Asteroids, and it might have been the day he had Chemo, but it was a victory, and Ill never play him at it again Sorry pop...lol...

Today I told him as we stood at the backs of our shops, I love you, Im here if you need anything yell, but it has to be on my schedule. Simple, so for the next month and some change I have my own plans ...... Kids are #1, House #2, "Aphrodities Curse" #3. I spent equal time on all 3 today, and it was amazing without the DP how much that was, I even had time to pay visits to a couple racers from the area who run the circut in comp to kibitz. I was told anything I need ask,.....so I did, advice....they agree Im on the right path (once they helped me pick one, I damm near traded the 72 for a Super Gas car, and a nice one) That would have been the easy way out though, and it wouldnt have been mine, not built with my direction and the teams help, tommorow and thrus, final chassis cleanup, then.....The new shop (the second part of NHR used for storage, I assumed the lease on the office section we did not previously occupy)....well its damm near ship shape, and a clean slate ready to move the requisite tools into....plus I got a really monster Miller from a buddy who needs a place to store it....how many welders does one guy need anyway ?

Tommorow.....it all begins.....again.