Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? - Page 2

Dick Butler · 04-08-2010, 01:00 PM

Ah Yes, Everyone "deserves" to run. Think about it! Shouldnt there be reasons to work on a car? shouldnt we reward achievement? Should we dumb it down to Bracket racing altogether? Maybe there should be a punishment for having a FAST car and pay the slow cars so they can participate better.....
I agree with the vote better where Racers only should vote.... Us retired guys are obviously for the OLDE days..

Michael Beard · 04-08-2010, 06:28 PM

What's "Indy" got to do with it? Stock is a 128-car qualified field at ALL events, even Divisional races. I don't see why Indy should be any different than any other race. And yes, I qualified at the E-Town FMDRS (that dates it right there!) with 141 cars in Stock.

Only Nitro Joe can ladder that many cars. LOL Man, everybody did an incredible job keeping things organized and smooth-running at the US Class Nationals at Byron all those years ago.

Class winner bump-ins are a separate discussion, which we'll leave to another thread.

RE: AHFS factoring... Pffff! I went to Indy a couple years ago, and those were some of the worst and slowest conditions I've ever experienced. If you can tag it at *that* race, you *deserve* some HP!

Just my $.02,

LNorton · 04-08-2010, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

What's "Indy" got to do with it? Stock is a 128-car qualified field at ALL events, even Divisional races. I don't see why Indy should be any different than any other race. And yes, I qualified at the E-Town FMDRS (that dates it right there!) with 141 cars in Stock.

The quota at the NHRA National Events are lower than 128... Which in essence makes it an all run field.

442OLDS · 04-08-2010, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Ah Yes, Everyone "deserves" to run. Think about it! Shouldnt there be reasons to work on a car? shouldnt we reward achievement? Should we dumb it down to Bracket racing altogether? Maybe there should be a punishment for having a FAST car and pay the slow cars so they can participate better.....
I agree with the vote better where Racers only should vote.... Us retired guys are obviously for the OLDE days..

I am glad you made this rather negative post because it gave me an idea.INDY is a LONG way away,but the quota is 180 cars.

Here is last year's field:
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2009#indextop

Last year,there were 154 entries for a 128 car field.Only 26 did not make it.Others did not attend,because of the uncertainty of whether or not they would qualify.

MOST RACERS DO NOT WANT TO SPEND THE KIND OF MONEY THAT IT TAKES TO GO TO INDY AND NOT QUALIFY!

If some horsepower factors don't change by the time Indy comes around,there might only be 128 cars total.IS THAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT?

I was one of the fastest 128,out of 128. So what?

RACERS need to work together on issues such as this.I say run EVERYBODY!

Next,the goal for everyone should be to get to 128 or higher,There is enough time to get some sponsors for this.T-shirts,hats,maybe some cash and contingency for being one of the fastest 128 cars at INDY!

I think it would be a sense of accomplishment to be in the top 128 out of 180.
NHRA would make big money off of all of the entry fees,and maybe the racers could benefit too with some contingency postings for qualifying 128 or higher!

And just so people don't think this is my "personal agenda",I will NOT enter Indy to save a spot for somebody else!

Anybody like this idea?

Comments?

04-08-2010, 08:02 PM

Daryl, You should take some of the runner up money you made last year at the Sports Nats, and work on your car. Or better yet instead of beating the keyboard all day long trying to convince other stock racers to get on board with this BS plan of an all run field, maybe get out and TEST with your car. Maybe your next heads up will be a little closer. Indy should be brought back to the way it was. CLASS WINNERS and then the rest of the quailfied field should given the privlige of racing first round and the most prestigious race on the NHRA circut. If you want to do something for the guys that don't make the 128, give them a free ice cream when qualifiying and class is over. Hey, nobody is having a bad day when they are eating ice cream.

Fix Indy back to where is should be. Class winers first. Off the soap box.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I am glad you made this rather negative post because it gave me an idea.INDY is a LONG way away,but the quota is 180 cars.

Here is last year's field:
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2009#indextop

Last year,there were 154 entries for a 128 car field.Only 26 did not make it.Others did not attend,because of the uncertainty of whether or not they would qualify.

MOST RACERS DO NOT WANT TO SPEND THE KIND OF MONEY THAT IT TAKES TO GO TO INDY AND NOT QUALIFY!

If some horsepower factors don't change by the time Indy comes around,there might only be 128 cars total.IS THAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT?

I was one of the fastest 128,out of 128. So what?

RACERS need to work together on issues such as this.I say run EVERYBODY!

Next,the goal for everyone should be to get to 128 or higher,There is enough time to get some sponsors for this.T-shirts,hats,maybe some cash and contingency for being one of the fastest 128 cars at INDY!

I think it would be a sense of accomplishment to be in the top 128 out of 180.
NHRA would make big money off of all of the entry fees,and maybe the racers could benefit too with some contingency postings for qualifying 128 or higher!

And just so people don't think this is my "personal agenda",I will NOT enter Indy to save a spot for somebody else!

Anybody like this idea?

Comments?

442OLDS · 04-08-2010, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

Daryl, You should take some of the runner up money you made last year at the Sports Nats, and work on your car. Or better yet instead of beating the keyboard all day long trying to convince other stock racers to get on board with this BS plan of an all run field, maybe get out and TEST with your car. Maybe your next heads up will be a little closer. Indy should be brought back to the way it was. CLASS WINNERS and then the rest of the quailfied field should given the privlige of racing first round and the most prestigious race on the NHRA circut. If you want to do something for the guys that don't make the 128, give them a free ice cream when qualifiying and class is over. Hey, nobody is having a bad day when they are eating ice cream.

Fix Indy back to where is should be. Class winers first. Off the soap box.

Thanks,thats all I needed to hear.

Somehow,I was hoping to get some racers to stick together and do some things for the common good.You rip me about my car and you race a 455 Pontiac with a 310 or 315 horsepower rating ?That is a &%%$ JOKE!

BTW,

LAST POST ON "CLASSRACER"

BYE!

Bob Bender · 09-19-2014, 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=Todd Hoven;180894]Daryl, You should take some of the runner up money you made last year at the Sports Nats, and work on your car. Or better yet instead of beating the keyboard all day long trying to convince other stock racers to get on board with this BS plan of an all run field, maybe get out and TEST with your car. Maybe your next heads up will be a little closer. Indy should be brought back to the way it was. CLASS WINNERS and then the rest of the quailfied field should given the privlige of racing first round and the most prestigious race on the NHRA circut. If you want to do something for the guys that don't make the 128, give them a free ice cream when qualifiying and class is over. Hey, nobody is having a bad day when they are eating ice cream.

Fix Indy back to where is should be. Class winers first. Off the soap box.[/QUOT

AMEN !!!!!

Marty Buth · 09-19-2014, 10:15 AM

I went to vote on this poll and it tells me that I have already voted. I sure don't remember voting! How could this happen?

treekiller · 09-19-2014, 10:36 AM

running stock and super stock sure sounds like a job.so you guys work all week at your regular jobs then go to the track and work on your cars all weekend?then have to deal with the possibility of not being allowed to run because you don't go fast enough sounds crazy.for myself going to the track is like a mini vacation which I want to enjoy from start to finish. did spending 2 or 3 grand to go to indy and not qualify feel like such a great and traditional thing when it happened? Did you really say awe shucks I'll get them next time and work harder at the house? Who is indy really for the best mechanics or the best drivers? Gene Schmaltz jr.

Paul Iaconis · 09-19-2014, 11:03 AM

What everyone is forgetting is stock and super stock is a performance based class. If you want to run a all run field run a .90 class. Indy is the best place to show what you have. The person who says that there will come a time that there won't a full field at Indy better put down whatever your smoking. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. There is always someone out there that thinks there faster than the other guy. That's what makes stock and super stock racing.

View Poll Results: Should Indy Be All Run Field In Stock?
ONLY 128 Fastest Cars under index	133	66.50%
ALL RUN FIELD	67	33.50%
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04-08-2010, 01:00 PM	#1
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? Ah Yes, Everyone "deserves" to run. Think about it! Shouldnt there be reasons to work on a car? shouldnt we reward achievement? Should we dumb it down to Bracket racing altogether? Maybe there should be a punishment for having a FAST car and pay the slow cars so they can participate better..... I agree with the vote better where Racers only should vote.... Us retired guys are obviously for the OLDE days.. Last edited by Dick Butler; 04-08-2010 at 02:23 PM.

04-08-2010, 06:28 PM	#2
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? What's "Indy" got to do with it? Stock is a 128-car qualified field at ALL events, even Divisional races. I don't see why Indy should be any different than any other race. And yes, I qualified at the E-Town FMDRS (that dates it right there!) with 141 cars in Stock. Only Nitro Joe can ladder that many cars. LOL Man, everybody did an incredible job keeping things organized and smooth-running at the US Class Nationals at Byron all those years ago. Class winner bump-ins are a separate discussion, which we'll leave to another thread. RE: AHFS factoring... Pffff! I went to Indy a couple years ago, and those were some of the worst and slowest conditions I've ever experienced. If you can tag it at that race, you deserve some HP! Just my $.02, __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

09-19-2014, 07:53 PM	#7
Bob Bender VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,737 Likes: 1,602 Liked 460 Times in 91 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? [QUOTE=Todd Hoven;180894]Daryl, You should take some of the runner up money you made last year at the Sports Nats, and work on your car. Or better yet instead of beating the keyboard all day long trying to convince other stock racers to get on board with this BS plan of an all run field, maybe get out and TEST with your car. Maybe your next heads up will be a little closer. Indy should be brought back to the way it was. CLASS WINNERS and then the rest of the quailfied field should given the privlige of racing first round and the most prestigious race on the NHRA circut. If you want to do something for the guys that don't make the 128, give them a free ice cream when qualifiying and class is over. Hey, nobody is having a bad day when they are eating ice cream. Fix Indy back to where is should be. Class winers first. Off the soap box.[/QUOT AMEN !!!!! __________________ Bob Bender 144 O/SA 2010-2012 National Record Holder

09-19-2014, 10:15 AM	#8
Marty Buth Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Freeport, IL Posts: 467 Likes: 667 Liked 232 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? I went to vote on this poll and it tells me that I have already voted. I sure don't remember voting! How could this happen? __________________ Marty Buth 3657 STK

09-19-2014, 10:36 AM	#9
treekiller Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? running stock and super stock sure sounds like a job.so you guys work all week at your regular jobs then go to the track and work on your cars all weekend?then have to deal with the possibility of not being allowed to run because you don't go fast enough sounds crazy.for myself going to the track is like a mini vacation which I want to enjoy from start to finish. did spending 2 or 3 grand to go to indy and not qualify feel like such a great and traditional thing when it happened? Did you really say awe shucks I'll get them next time and work harder at the house? Who is indy really for the best mechanics or the best drivers? Gene Schmaltz jr.

09-19-2014, 11:03 AM	#10
Paul Iaconis Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 53 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock? What everyone is forgetting is stock and super stock is a performance based class. If you want to run a all run field run a .90 class. Indy is the best place to show what you have. The person who says that there will come a time that there won't a full field at Indy better put down whatever your smoking. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. There is always someone out there that thinks there faster than the other guy. That's what makes stock and super stock racing.