oil retention devices

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

I'd like to see one of these on an FE powered car. I dont see it happening!! the headers are so close to the oil pan, and it will have to fit around the crossmember??


Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

[troublemaker427]

Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson

I'd like to see one of these on an FE powered car. I dont see it happening!! the headers are so close to the oil pan, and it will have to fit around the crossmember??


Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

Stephen I was thinking the same thing. I've looked at my car and I just don't see how it would work. I'd be curious if anyone tried it on a car like ours.

[Bobby Zlatkin]

All the talk on the news now with the health care reform legislation about the federal gov. forcing us to purchase something that we may not want.

Seems like the NHRA is now 'our' gov. forcing us to purchase something we don't want and don't really need.

I can't believe how many of you candy a$$es would even consider this for your car. It shouldn't be required, it should be optional.

Isn't it expensive enough to put a car together now?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

So 7 pages into this I guess I'll ask; Why do I need an "oil retention device" on my 13 second Stocker when a Bracket Dragster doesn't need one till 7.49?

So we're now 11 pages in and no one can answer my question? Could it be that my 13 second Stocker is going down a National Event track and a Bracket Dragster isn't?

[Floyd Gomez]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

So we're now 11 pages in and no one can answer my question? Could it be that my 13 second Stocker is going down a National Event track and a Bracket Dragster isn't?

Billy
You are correct. Some tracks have mandated it in bracket cars running faster than 10.99. Others haven't. In my opinion what has happened is this. A manufacturer of these diapers has gone to NHRA and said "Hey I have this device that will save time and money from oil downs. If you mandate it on all cars running National Events and Divisional Events you can ensure less down time." NHRA agrees with no data to back it up. I don't fault the companies for trying to sell their product. A business owner has that duty to keep his company operating. I do however have a problem with a company trying to sell a product knowing that historical data shows that some cars and classes just don't need this product.

[Sean Marconette]

Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez

Billy
You are correct. Some tracks have mandated it in bracket cars running faster than 10.99. Others haven't. In my opinion what has happened is this. A manufacturer of these diapers has gone to NHRA and said "Hey I have this device that will save time and money from oil downs. If you mandate it on all cars running National Events and Divisional Events you can ensure less down time." NHRA agrees with no data to back it up. I don't fault the companies for trying to sell their product. A business owner has that duty to keep his company operating. I do however have a problem with a company trying to sell a product knowing that historical data shows that some cars and classes just don't need this product.

Amen!!!

Well unless you do a burnout at 8K?

Sean

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez

Billy
You are correct. Some tracks have mandated it in bracket cars running faster than 10.99. Others haven't. In my opinion what has happened is this. A manufacturer of these diapers has gone to NHRA and said "Hey I have this device that will save time and money from oil downs. If you mandate it on all cars running National Events and Divisional Events you can ensure less down time." NHRA agrees with no data to back it up. I don't fault the companies for trying to sell their product. A business owner has that duty to keep his company operating. I do however have a problem with a company trying to sell a product knowing that historical data shows that some cars and classes just don't need this product.

Floyd,

I'm with you and Billy on this, as it's just as crummy in my mind as the torque converter companies (except I think for Hughes), requiring you to have either purchased or had serviced a converter within 36mths of the event that the contingency is earned at (per a ND mag. from last month)!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Ryan Horensky

Terry,

I probobly haven't met you since I was about 12 years old so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are making a joke about me on here. There is no doubt my dad throws alot of time and money at both cars. Stock eliminator is his passion and he works very hard to make sure both cars are competitive and fast. I also appreciate every opportunity in racing that has been given to me since I was old enough to start driving. I consider myself very lucky and very fortunate. But honestly you don't know me, what parts I spend money on, what work I do to the cars, etc. So please keep your opinions to yourself if you're being serious. If you're joking....sorry I took it the wrong way.

Well I know about you and I do know your dad and have my connections. I did meet you several years ago at Maple Grove when you were drivng the "Box Top" coupe. To bad your so sensitive...lol. I do know that you are a very good driver. You are just one of the new breed of racers. Several on here can drive like a robot but can not even lash valves or set the timing. Your dad builds beautiful cars and I wished I had his talent. Hang in there...this racing crap isnt life or death.

[Racer 6x64]

I feel a need to respond to this. An oil retention device would have saved me a lot of pain and damage last season at my local track. I threw a rod at the top end and put a lot of oil on the track and under my back tires causing me to have an impromtu meeting with the wall. In the process i crossed in front of my opponent and he had to do some quick driving through my oil to avoid hitting me and the wall. A diaper would not have saved my engine but it most likely would have prevented a very unwelcome ride into the wall and almost causing damage or injury to my opponent. My theory is that no matter how good your engine or your engine builder is, they didn't build the parts, if a rod cap breaks you are going for a ride. I say this as I would never want any harm to come to any racer. As far as a short clean up time, mine was only 2 hours that could have been avoided for a mere $300 diaper.

Have a fun season.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Racer 6x64

I feel a need to respond to this. An oil retention device would have saved me a lot of pain and damage last season at my local track. I threw a rod at the top end and put a lot of oil on the track and under my back tires causing me to have an impromtu meeting with the wall. In the process i crossed in front of my opponent and he had to do some quick driving through my oil to avoid hitting me and the wall. A diaper would not have saved my engine but it most likely would have prevented a very unwelcome ride into the wall and almost causing damage or injury to my opponent. My theory is that no matter how good your engine or your engine builder is, they didn't build the parts, if a rod cap breaks you are going for a ride. I say this as I would never want any harm to come to any racer. As far as a short clean up time, mine was only 2 hours that could have been avoided for a mere $300 diaper.

Have a fun season.

Since you're incident have you bought and installed a diaper?As of now they are OPTIONAL.And that's the way it should stay.