oil retention devices

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

I was there at the Dutch and the ONLY reason the race was delayed was because of rain.
Don't remember any problems with stockers oiling down the track.
BTW do you have a diaper on your heemi?I hope so.526"s and a blower sounds like a recipe for a future China Syndrome.

Seems like some people have an agenda. Ed. He has to use one so he wants everyone to use one. Sounds like misery loves company.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Blown Hemi, I think your log on name says it all, not aware of too many of those in S/SS. The post was started in regards to what actual S/SS racers thought of this plan of action, not for people who don't have a dime in it. I've got several freinds who run the faster classes who all had to shell out the coin for the 15 suits.Then most scrambled on the rear driveshaft deal. Sure most grumbled but hey the rule was already a done deal. Those are completely different cars than we're talking about. You say we're not entitled to see some data on this subject, why not? If they told all us that we've got this much down time by these certain classes that may sway some racers to rethink. Really I'd like to see the numbers across the board, for all classes T/F on down, any guesses on who the worst offenders are? Again I'm not against someone having one on I'd just like the choice, since we seem to be losing our choices on most everything else. And for the record I had a near miss while running a car with a diaper, kicked the rods in the lights crossed just behind me and tagged the wall hard apparently the Rat motor inards over loaded the diapers capacity. Joe

[Jim Bailey]

I can not represent racers a the SRAC meetings with info like; my buddy said , my wife said, my ex-wife said, etc. It won't fly!....We need; I was there. I saw Stock # ...SS # Oil the track and cause a delay. Then, We need info as to why they oiled the track - Engine Failure - Tranny Failer? - Rear End? SRAC only needs and can deal with FACTS! As they say $h*t in $h*t out. BTW - I was at the Dutch two years ago, and the only delays I remember were due to weather. Blown up 526, you're not Graham Light by chance, are you? (laughing). JB

[Floyd Gomez]

Actually your facts are no where near correct. I was there with a friend looking at a stocker that was for sale. There were 3 oil downs that I witnessed and all were from .90 cars. Not once did I ever see a stocker oildown anything and I watched every stocker run.

Originally Posted by blown hemi 526

My facts afre 100% correct. It was the stockers that oiled the track not the .90 cars. And they eventually did call it because it did shower and it was cold.
So I will give you that - they did not call itmainly because of the STOCKERS oiling the track.

Here is a question for you to ponder - IF the stockers/super stockers never had an issue then why is this even being discussed?? Thanks end of discussion. Just get ready to have your diapers next year because they will be mandatory - and a long time coming at that.

Sorry but let the wah fest begin.

[Bill Marshall]

Originally Posted by blown hemi 526

It should absolutely happen !!! Every car that goes to a national event, divisional or open should be required to have an oil containment system - end of story !!

People want data on how and when a stocker or super stocker has oil the track? How about the Dutch Classic 2 years ago - my buddy was racing there and said they were down for 6 ++ hours because of stockers blowing up - they then cancelled the day.

If you are wheelstanding and worried about ruining the diaper - that means you are hitting your oil pan or frame - you have bigger issues !!

And since when do we need proof of past problems - why in the world do I have to run a -15 suit. Show me the data of how many people suffer burns over their body because they had a -5 on?

The rule should simply be you race div or nationally - everyone has to have it on - you bracket race locally 10.99 and faster you need it as well.

You can buy a diaper for $149 so I dont want to hear it's bull**** and they are killing us with costs - my suit was 1800 !!!

Sorry if it sounds like a rant - but the topic is a joke and should really be a non issue

you dont have a stock or super stock car so maybe you dont understand the limited area we have to try and fit a diaper my steering just misses my oil pan by maybe 1/8 inch and we are not aloud to touch that in these cars
secondly i have a car that wheel stands to high on occasion but most of the time it is under control but if the conditions are right it will go way in the air and just ligntly touch the track with the oil pan thats not a bigger issue unless NHRA want to let us change the steering and some other things that would have to be done this is not a good idea one other thing it is not cost of the diaper that is upsettingit it is the cost of getting then to fit in my case it will cost me about $1500 dollars new headers etc.etc.

[Jeff Teuton]

I think at Houston I will try to get some of the Tech guys to come over and look at one of these SS cars on the lift, and see the problem in detail. It's really tight in there with steering, headers, oil pan, frame etc especially with an older model car. The AH cars are probably the worst, but some of the cars with tricky headers might easily be worse.

[Ed Fernandez]

See below Mr blown hemi.You answered your own question.Since you seem to be able to see the future,how about giving me the Powerball winning numbers for tomorrow night.

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If it was not the stockers oiling the track all day then why is this even being mentioned to becoming a rule ??
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To much money for NHRA to skim off the diaper companies to let this one go. First it was the muffler rule and they made a ton of money from the skim on that and now it will be this

[Stephen & Horace Johnson]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

I think at Houston I will try to get some of the Tech guys to come over and look at one of these SS cars on the lift, and see the problem in detail. It's really tight in there with steering, headers, oil pan, frame etc especially with an older model car. The AH cars are probably the worst, but some of the cars with tricky headers might easily be worse.

Jeff teuton,

Like an FE...


Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
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[Floyd Gomez]

OK is it your brother or a friend of yours wwhich is what you claimed in your first post? You can't get that straight so how can you have the facts straight when YOU were NOT there?

Originally Posted by blown hemi 526

of course I run a diaper on the car - it's mandatory - as it will be for you as well next year.
Do I run stock - no but my brother does in Div 1 and he is the one that told me the FACTS. Anyone from the Div 1 office ( BOB LANG) should feel free to comment about this.

If it was not the stockers oiling the track all day then why is this even being mentioned to becoming a rule ??

If they dont make it a rule I can give a ratts *** - it's my opinion that anything that races on the nat and div level should have them. And sorry to burst everyones bubble - in time you will have them. Maybe it wont be next year, but def in a few years.

To much money for NHRA to skim off the diaper companies to let this one go. First it was the muffler rule and they made a ton of money from the skim on that and now it will be this.

Such is life. Either way time will tell - but if I were to bet on it I would say within 2-3 years we all run the diaper.