Yet another bogu horsepower factor

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

If there are new assembly line or special production cars made in the proper amount for acceptance......that are capable of running 145mph after a normal Stocker type preperation......Their HP rating should be rated at least somewhere close to correct.

Up untill just a few years ago the highest class Stockers barely went 130mph.

That was after numerous "enhancements" and various improvements in engines and drivelines.


If new engine technology is head and shoulders above the old cars......their HP ratings should reflect that....


I have never seen any "Daily Drivers" in near stock condtion run in the 10's.....My idea of a Daily Driver means it is not really just a race car making believe it's a street car.........

I have seen a few Vipers and Corvettes run some pretty impressive numbers but not in the 10's........speeds were under 130 and they were driven to the track. I've seen some boostedstreet driven imports run some fast numbers as well but nowhere near 145.........

Rich, you should check out some of the new LS3 Corvettes, several in the 10's with nothing but headers, converter, tune and some drag radials

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

have never seen any "Daily Drivers" in near stock condtion run in the 10's.....My idea of a Daily Driver means it is not really just a race car making believe it's a street car.........

Go buy an SRT8, change converter and headers, and you will all day long.

Ive got an armrest full of timeslips up to 120 in BONE STOCK Trim.

Hell the old man just ran a 13 flat on STOCK Tune. BONE Stock....we forgot to throw a "tune" on it 100% as from the factory.

Converter and Gears.... easy into low 11's Gears on the SRT8s are tall and with 20 in rubber doggy..

Throw some 18 drag radials on it, low 12s 100% STOCK.

Next ?

Then again I guess weve been poundig the piss outta the new hemis, and throwing rods and lunching heads, and on and on.

A Friggin JEEP SRT8 RIGHT Off the SHOWROOM Is good for low 13's at damm near 4500 LBS !

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by drooze

I wont disagree with the HP Ratings, nuther issue all together,

No, it's not another issue. It is *exactly* the issue (or one of two issues -- the other being the "factory built race car, non-street legal issue)

but take a Chally SRT8, pop in a cam with a healthy duration, pull the exhausts , change the gear and converter and throw a tune on it and itll run 10.5 flat all day long, WITH the IRS and pulling at 4000 LB. (...) What makes that not a stocker ?

That *is* a Stocker. It *should* be in the Guide. Get the specs in the guide, give it a rational HP factor, and have at it. They're awesome cars, and they *should* be out there! Saw a really deep blue Challenger SRT8 in a Wally World parking lot yesterday. -=drool=- Just gorgeous!

All anybody has been asking for is a modicum of common sense, and I think 98% of those who take issue with what has been done with the new cars have NO problem with you and others who have built them. You're playing within the rules. It is the factories and NHRA that have made it a complete and utter joke.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Thanks, much needed, it wouldnt have mattered where we ended up just to be a part of it was enough.....

Thanks again, waitll the SRt8 is in the guides....lol

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

No, it's not another issue. It is *exactly* the issue (or one of two issues -- the other being the "factory built race car, non-street legal issue)



That *is* a Stocker. It *should* be in the Guide. Get the specs in the guide, give it a rational HP factor, and have at it. They're awesome cars, and they *should* be out there! Saw a really deep blue Challenger SRT8 in a Wally World parking lot yesterday. -=drool=- Just gorgeous!

All anybody has been asking for is a modicum of common sense, and I think 98% of those who take issue with what has been done with the new cars have NO problem with you and others who have built them. You're playing within the rules. It is the factories and NHRA that have made it a complete and utter joke.