Rumors from Sonoma............. - Page 3

treessavoy · 07-29-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by west coast

IF the NHRA decided to run combo's and you think the transbrake is an advantage then just have them take the wire on the solinoid or allow Stockers to run one too then we could move on to throttle stops, delays, timers and ....there you have it ....we're bracket racers!

Jim R

Can we double enter and run two cars then?

Yeah and I forgot about "buy backs" up to the third round!

Jim R

X-TECH MAN · 07-29-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by treessavoy

Yeah and I forgot about "buy backs" up to the third round!

Jim R

Naaaaaa, BUY BACKS allowed to the semi finals. More money for NHRA because we all know buy backs never increase the purse....lol.

Dallas Kelly · 07-29-2009, 08:36 AM

First,I understand, that given I haven't raced in a long time, my creditability is suspect but I believe there could be a reasonable upturn in national event entries "if" NHRA would abandon what I refer to as "racer blackmail" or the grade point system. Historically, that system was implemented during the high flying years of drag racing when there were multiple venues competing for racer attendance and NHRA used the racer's desire to attend prestigious events to coerce them into attending their, often lower paying and consequently poorer attended, divisional races. They always stood behind the cloak of creating support for their member tracks. When it began it only applied to U.S. Nationals entries but within a short time was expanded to include all national events. This corresponded to a rapid growth period in the number and location of national events to cover the entire US and even some in Canada. At the time it served NHRA well to get the racer's unflagging support for the whole NHRA package but I'm merely suggesting that in today's circumstances that it has out lived it's usefulness. I think that review of S & S/S car counts at opens and divisional races, especially in divisions 1, 2, 3 and 4, support an argument that the grade point system is no longer viable and is ,in fact, reducing car counts at national events. Let the flames begin.

Casey Miles · 07-29-2009, 09:02 AM

When you pay a premium price for a product, you expect a quality product. NHRA is not giving a quality product for the premium price that you pay to them for dues and entry fees. There wouldn’t be as much turmoil in S/SS if NHRA policed the categories closer then they have. Why is it that a Comp car gets its new index the following Monday morning if someone goes more then .61 under over the weekend? S/SS should be the same. We race NHRA S/SS because we want limitations for each category and rules to be followed that make it a fair play ground. Instead, NHRA turns their back on parts and devices that never came on factory cars and says it’s “OK”. That’s a problem when you pay for the administration of the rules and you don’t receive it from the governing body.
I’m not bashing, I’m just stating the facts. The rumors that you hear are from people who don’t want to do their job that they are getting paid for. If you look at NASCAR, they are getting paid for what they do, administer the rules. They take cars apart just to look at them for no reason, randomly. NHRA should be following NASCAR’s lead and do what they are expected to be doing, administering the rules

Casey Miles
248H

07-29-2009, 08:36 AM	#3
Dallas Kelly Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cleves, OH Posts: 141 Likes: 328 Liked 85 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Rumors from Sonoma............. First,I understand, that given I haven't raced in a long time, my creditability is suspect but I believe there could be a reasonable upturn in national event entries "if" NHRA would abandon what I refer to as "racer blackmail" or the grade point system. Historically, that system was implemented during the high flying years of drag racing when there were multiple venues competing for racer attendance and NHRA used the racer's desire to attend prestigious events to coerce them into attending their, often lower paying and consequently poorer attended, divisional races. They always stood behind the cloak of creating support for their member tracks. When it began it only applied to U.S. Nationals entries but within a short time was expanded to include all national events. This corresponded to a rapid growth period in the number and location of national events to cover the entire US and even some in Canada. At the time it served NHRA well to get the racer's unflagging support for the whole NHRA package but I'm merely suggesting that in today's circumstances that it has out lived it's usefulness. I think that review of S & S/S car counts at opens and divisional races, especially in divisions 1, 2, 3 and 4, support an argument that the grade point system is no longer viable and is ,in fact, reducing car counts at national events. Let the flames begin.

07-29-2009, 09:02 AM	#4
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Rumors from Sonoma............. When you pay a premium price for a product, you expect a quality product. NHRA is not giving a quality product for the premium price that you pay to them for dues and entry fees. There wouldn’t be as much turmoil in S/SS if NHRA policed the categories closer then they have. Why is it that a Comp car gets its new index the following Monday morning if someone goes more then .61 under over the weekend? S/SS should be the same. We race NHRA S/SS because we want limitations for each category and rules to be followed that make it a fair play ground. Instead, NHRA turns their back on parts and devices that never came on factory cars and says it’s “OK”. That’s a problem when you pay for the administration of the rules and you don’t receive it from the governing body. I’m not bashing, I’m just stating the facts. The rumors that you hear are from people who don’t want to do their job that they are getting paid for. If you look at NASCAR, they are getting paid for what they do, administer the rules. They take cars apart just to look at them for no reason, randomly. NHRA should be following NASCAR’s lead and do what they are expected to be doing, administering the rules Casey Miles 248H