AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn - Page 2

stage1scott · 07-12-2009, 01:08 PM

Alan-what happened to the words on your post? It was accurate, sincere, to the point and not unkind-why remove them?

John Kelley · 07-12-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fredjohnston

If NHRA pulls the rod, piston, crank, cam, etc. and I inspect them and it's legal, then I'll give the guy $2500!

I wouldn't allow fredjohnston to inspect my oil filter........

jmantle · 07-13-2009, 12:28 PM

Congratulations to Joe and Hal. I don't think any of us in stock who were at Woodburn and regularly race with these guys had any doubts. These guys are good, give them the credit they deserve.
Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

Dion Hildebrandt · 07-13-2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmantle

Congratulations to Joe and Hal. I don't think any of us in stock who were at Woodburn and regularly race with these guys had any doubts. These guys are good, give them the credit they deserve.
Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

well said,... congrats on the record Joe and Hal

Michael Pliska · 07-13-2009, 01:37 PM

Congrats to Joe and Hal!!! Also to Jeff W, assuming you were there helping them with the car. I've known them for over 25 years, back when we were bracket racing our daily driven cars. As others have noted, they don't go out wandering the pits as a social gathering. I was hanging out in a pit across from them a couple of years ago (I hadn't been to a divisional in years), and I swear the exchange we had (just catching up on things) was the most I saw them talk the entire time. These guys just work their butts off. One thing about them, I wouldn't be surprised if they run the car slowly at times just to mess with people like those complaining on this forum.

Regards,

Harry 6674 · 07-13-2009, 01:50 PM

Ed how many intake and head combos have you flowed for you car to get the best combination? Just wondering. Its hard to find a matched set without a lot of trial and error. Also I'm sure Hal will build you an identical engine to theirs than you can tech it to your hearts content and report your findings. Step up if your that positive. It won't be cheap. The last price I got from Joe was 17K and that was quite a few years ago.

mannymen · 07-13-2009, 04:40 PM

Ed and Fred have a point. Teching will not prove whether the heads and intake are pure. Let fred and and ed provide a STOCK PURE set of heads and intake and then see what the camaro runs. That is the only test to run. What casting numbers on the heads and intake is Hal running? Running closed chamber heads suck for flowing in comparison to open chamber heads and I think I need to get rid of my Brodix, Dart and Edelbrock intakes and buy another 163 as they seem to flow much better than the new age stuff.

Otherwise I could care less how fast he goes. Just giving my opinion on how to validate their ET's

L Peterson6261 · 07-13-2009, 11:02 PM

Sorry boys and girls, I can’t read this without commenting…. give me a stinking break!!! Do any of you really think Hal or Joe are dumb enough to cheat? I’ve been involved in stock for 35 years. I’ve had some pretty fast cars and I feel like I know what it takes to go fast and you don’t have to cheat to do it. I’ve watched Hal & Joe longer than I can remember and I’ll tell you these guys go fast the old fashion way, yes the Warren Johnson way… they work hard at it! If you don’t know them personally you’ll never know how hard they work and how much they test & tune (and their car is nice too). BTW, it’s not just the engine… as good as they are at building engines, “it’s the tune up too”! It’s the entire combination, bumper to bumper and they know that better than anyone, (OK… include Cal Method in that last statement). Hal and Joe have taken the time to figure it “ALL” out not just the engine! I’ll bet these guys spend more time figuring out what one cylinder likes and then tuning all 8 clyinders one at a time (yes you can do that now days) than most of us spend on our entire car. And to top that off they are very friendly, nice guys and also helpful! I’ve been working on getting my car faster and I’ve never once asked either Hal or Joe a question without them being very honest, friendly and helpful. They are class act guys when it comes to racers helping racers and any of you who can’t give them credit for what they do without finding fault should be; as my mother would say, embarrassed and ashamed of yourselves. I’ll bet anyone of you 5K, if they get torn down tomorrow, they’re 100% legal. And when I win your money, I’ll give it to Hal and Joe. Congratulations to them for not getting on here to defend themselves… more evidence that they are a class act! We need more racers (and men) like them!

Larry Peterson
Stk 6261 B/SA

07-12-2009, 01:08 PM	#1
stage1scott Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cornville Posts: 406 Likes: 1,870 Liked 109 Times in 44 Posts	Re: AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn Alan-what happened to the words on your post? It was accurate, sincere, to the point and not unkind-why remove them?

07-13-2009, 12:28 PM	#3
jmantle Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Black Creek, BC Canada Posts: 331 Likes: 80 Liked 172 Times in 81 Posts	Re: AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn Congratulations to Joe and Hal. I don't think any of us in stock who were at Woodburn and regularly race with these guys had any doubts. These guys are good, give them the credit they deserve. Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

07-13-2009, 01:37 PM	#5
Michael Pliska Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Happy Valley, OR Posts: 260 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn Congrats to Joe and Hal!!! Also to Jeff W, assuming you were there helping them with the car. I've known them for over 25 years, back when we were bracket racing our daily driven cars. As others have noted, they don't go out wandering the pits as a social gathering. I was hanging out in a pit across from them a couple of years ago (I hadn't been to a divisional in years), and I swear the exchange we had (just catching up on things) was the most I saw them talk the entire time. These guys just work their butts off. One thing about them, I wouldn't be surprised if they run the car slowly at times just to mess with people like those complaining on this forum. Regards, __________________ Michael Pliska 643 S/G

07-13-2009, 01:50 PM	#6
Harry 6674 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn Ed how many intake and head combos have you flowed for you car to get the best combination? Just wondering. Its hard to find a matched set without a lot of trial and error. Also I'm sure Hal will build you an identical engine to theirs than you can tech it to your hearts content and report your findings. Step up if your that positive. It won't be cheap. The last price I got from Joe was 17K and that was quite a few years ago.

07-13-2009, 04:40 PM	#7
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 729 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn Ed and Fred have a point. Teching will not prove whether the heads and intake are pure. Let fred and and ed provide a STOCK PURE set of heads and intake and then see what the camaro runs. That is the only test to run. What casting numbers on the heads and intake is Hal running? Running closed chamber heads suck for flowing in comparison to open chamber heads and I think I need to get rid of my Brodix, Dart and Edelbrock intakes and buy another 163 as they seem to flow much better than the new age stuff. Otherwise I could care less how fast he goes. Just giving my opinion on how to validate their ET's __________________ N/A Last edited by mannymen; 07-13-2009 at 04:51 PM.

07-13-2009, 11:02 PM	#8
L Peterson6261 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 72 Likes: 151 Liked 38 Times in 13 Posts	Re: AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn Sorry boys and girls, I can’t read this without commenting…. give me a stinking break!!! Do any of you really think Hal or Joe are dumb enough to cheat? I’ve been involved in stock for 35 years. I’ve had some pretty fast cars and I feel like I know what it takes to go fast and you don’t have to cheat to do it. I’ve watched Hal & Joe longer than I can remember and I’ll tell you these guys go fast the old fashion way, yes the Warren Johnson way… they work hard at it! If you don’t know them personally you’ll never know how hard they work and how much they test & tune (and their car is nice too). BTW, it’s not just the engine… as good as they are at building engines, *“it’s the tune up too”*! It’s the entire combination, bumper to bumper and they know that better than anyone, (OK… include Cal Method in that last statement). Hal and Joe have taken the time to figure it “ALL” out not just the engine! I’ll bet these guys spend more time figuring out what one cylinder likes and then tuning all 8 clyinders one at a time (yes you can do that now days) than most of us spend on our entire car. And to top that off they are very friendly, nice guys and also helpful! I’ve been working on getting my car faster and I’ve never once asked either Hal or Joe a question without them being very honest, friendly and helpful. They are class act guys when it comes to racers helping racers and any of you who can’t give them credit for what they do without finding fault should be; as my mother would say, embarrassed and ashamed of yourselves. I’ll bet anyone of you 5K, if they get torn down tomorrow, they’re 100% legal. And when I win your money, I’ll give it to Hal and Joe. Congratulations to them for not getting on here to defend themselves… more evidence that they are a class act! We need more racers (and men) like them! Larry Peterson Stk 6261 B/SA __________________ Larry Peterson Stk: 6261 B/SA