A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class

[GTO/GN]

Please, lets not allow those car into Super Stock !!! They have been infiltrating everything.. Lets keep it limited to American Cars. Thanks to them we are Losing Pontiac next year... What next??

[Gordie Kissner]

I'll pass on the foreign cars, but how about the great ole american wagon in GT!! Could somebody tell me why wagons aren't allowed in GT?

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Gordie Kissner

I'll pass on the foreign cars, but how about the great ole american wagon in GT!! Could somebody tell me why wagons aren't allowed in GT?

Gordie -- I had no idea that wagons aren't allowed in GT -- Where did you learn about that rule ? Or is it even a rule ? Me , I love to see a Caprice Classic or a Custom Cruiser or even an Electra Estate with a big block for power .Those babies are so big 'Dragster' would have to enlarge their size just to show pictures of them .

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Gordie -- I had no idea that wagons aren't allowed in GT -- Where did you learn about that rule ? Or is it even a rule ? Me , I love to see a Caprice Classic or a Custom Cruiser or even an Electra Estate with a big block for power .Those babies are so big 'Dragster' would have to enlarge their size just to show pictures of them .

Page 122 of the 2009 Rule Book
"Reserved for foreign and domestic factory-production two-door coupes,two doot sedans,sports cars,or convertibles with any productionV-8 engine of the same make,"

[R GARY]

2 door wagons would be very cool in GT form!

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by GTO/GN

Please, lets not allow those car into Super Stock !!! They have been infiltrating everything.. Lets keep it limited to American Cars. Thanks to them we are Losing Pontiac next year... What next??

I couldn't agree with you more bud, but I can't blame the products themselves, as much as I blame our government for rolling out the red carpet for them....by doing things such as lifting the tariffs that once were charged to all imported products (even when there was proven evidence that free trade went one way in Japan, by a Washington envoy to Japan..circa 1991 Associated Press), or letting them build manufacturing plants here in our country so as to free themselves from the tariffs by calling their products American (since they were built here)? Yeah right, built with parts that were imported from their true country of origin---the LAND OF THE RISING YEN!!! Furthermore, I would blame those millions of people who seem to feel that no-longer can their "Fellow American's" design, engineer, and build quality cars and trucks for our everyday usage---imagine telling your sons and daughters that because they are Americans, they can't produce a usable product as good/better than the Asian & European countries can...that's essentially what those of them who patronized (then/now) those companies instead of ours have done!!! I personally challenged a Washington spokesperson back in the early '90's who dared to come out to one of my communities schools to have us parents steer our children to service oriented jobs, because the manufacturing base was going overseas!!! WHAT A COPOUT!!!
I'll BE DAMNED IF I WAS GOING TO TELL MY CHILDREN THAT CRAP!!!

I'll tell you this, if I would've won a decent part of that mega-million lottery from last year, I sure would've tried to revitalize the "Timex" watch/clock company, and/or our former American tv makers "Zenith", "Magnavox", or "RCA"...remember them???

THIS COUNTRY WE LOVE DIDN'T BECOME SUCH BECAUSE OF "MADE IN JAPAN", OR ANYWHERE ELSE, "AMERICA EXISTS BECAUSE OF MADE IN THE USA", AND AMERICAN PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME!!!!

Now you all know another reason I feel the way I do about imports...that's my take, what's yours???

[Don Kennedy]

Ok I see some issues. I now have to ask the question about the present cars like the GTO in pro stock or any of the last two to three years car models is where are they build?

The next Question I need answered is will the American car companies in the Future really care about performance?

The next question I have to ask is where will the new racers come from?
Or what type of car would they like to race?

Where is any money going to come from to support Super Stock racing?

Where is the Money going to come from to support NHRA sportsman in the future ?

hmm there are NO American car companies now or in the future going to support the performance end of Super stock in my opinion heck they may not even be around as we used to know them

Why would anyone be scared of the new body styles?

The American engines will be in the new body styles,especillay since there are no engines even remotely known in the foreign cars for any specs or power ?

I remember well when i wrote the GT rules and submitted them to NHRA in the early 80's via thru Zimmerman to Dave Danish there were the same concerns about Super Stock racing then (look at the results of my action a very sucessful GT racing class)and Now i say we must move forward or be left behind for ever.

FJ a new surge in car builders building race cars .

another question I just about bet a huge amount of cars and parts of cars are being build out of the USA . We can do nothing about it any more so we must adapt.

[X-TECH MAN]

I think Im gonna PUKE !

[Shawn Blair]

That is just plain STUPID!

[Colin Wigle]

I believe that the GREEN move will eventually be the biggest battle for motorsports as we no them. Maybe a good proposal would be E85 or pump gas as an excepted fuel for s/ss.
With all the combined classes in stock makes for some great racing lots of heads up! Super stock could use some of that.
I think the proposal is too watered down and insulting to all the OEMs. There are many classes for such combos. (Super pro)