Spec trans brake buttons in Super Stock, Comp

[SSDiv6]

http://www.nhra.com/content/sportsma...2339&zoneid=85

Spec trans brake buttons in Super Stock, Comp

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7/18/2007


The results of a recent racer survey, in which active competitors in Super Stock and Comp eliminators were asked to provide input on the use of delay devices, have been compiled and finalized. The overwhelming majority of respondents voted against the use of delay devices in both eliminators. Per the parameters of the survey, this decision also means that NHRA will implement a spec trans brake button (or buttons) for both eliminators in 2008.

At this time, NHRA is asking any manufacturer who would like a button accepted for 2008, to submit a sample to the Tech Department at NHRA Headquarters in Glendora. Along with the sample, complete specifications on the switch must be included. While acceptance parameters have not yet been finalized, only mechanical type buttons will be considered; i.e. hydraulics or pneumatics of any description will not be considered. All samples and specifications must be received in Glendora no later than Aug.31, 2007, to be considered for acceptance.

Please note that ONLY Super Stock and Comp eliminators will be affected by this decision.

[Jeff Lee]

I knew when I saw not one but two discounted AXE buttons for sale on this site something was up with the hydraulic type buttons!

[Joe Schweigert]

Makes you wonder if they had some inside information ?
Selling new buttons with a large discount !

[Randall Klein]

I've searched come COMP sites for what those guys are thinking and haven't seen anything....anybody know what their thinking is; surely those quick leaving cars don't use the short button...or do they?

I was hoping for at least a compromise throw length between the short and the Mandella/Biondo (of course, that is what I use!!)

Encouraging is the statement that there may be more than one spec button; at least that is how I read it

Any thoughts-comments?

[Jeff Lee]

Funny...the day they release this is the last day of Jim Skelly. Hmmm.....


My thoughts. And this is only after much research and evaluation. NHRA should allow delay boxes. Why? To level the playing fields and to take out the advantages enjoyed by internal delays that are used by the top racers. Hate to tell you guys but there is more than one way to delay the release of a trans-brake. The transmission and peripheals are hydraulic and electrical. Bleed rates can be controlled by adjustable orifices and resistors, or both. To say this is not being done is sticking your head in the sand. And know what? There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with making these adjustments! So if you want to keep everything on a level playing field for as CHEAPLY as possible, it requires the use of a delay box. Then NOBODY has an advantage in regards to the transmission unit. Those that are "killer" on the tree and defy all logic in explaining their win / loss record would probably be most opposed to an allowance of delay boxes.

The same technology used for auto-trans vehicles should be allowed for manual transmission vehicles.

The only alternative, which I would endorse, is eliminate the use of tranny-brakes. Everybody, auto and manual trans alike leaves with their foot.

Lastly, the AXE button. Apparently it has been disallowed. The racers I know that use this button have paperwork from NHRA spicifically allowing this product for use in SS competition. How does NHRA go back on their written word on this subject?

[LNorton]

Winners always cheat and losers always whine... just how things work

[greg fulk]

back in the early 90's when everybody started using boxes around here...the guys that were "also runs" jumped in & got boxes. They done well for a while..then the "good racers got boxes..& guess what? the guys thet were winning before the boxes were the ones that were winning again...put everything back to square one! As for me I'd say let them have boxes....just adds one more sticker to the car to get money from!

[Randall Klein]

I'll probably get burned for this, but when this first came out, about 50% of the comments were from STK class guys, and again above...hey, no dog in this fight...it is SS & Comp

I think the delay box was defeated by something like 80%, so let it rest

Internal trans release devices, large tires, tire pressure, clutch throws and others are set before the water box....that is the difference...you choose a Stick class, and options are limited, that is your choice....you win or go rounds, you're a hero and congrats from me, but it was your choice (by the way, I have no problem with whatever button-clutch thing you guys want or need, makes no diff to me, but no delay box)

Have at it