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Old 04-30-2012, 06:12 PM   #1
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Default wrong spec submitted by MOPAR

The reason for Dave Thomas's DQ this weekend

MOPAR engineering measures the valves differently than NHRA

A new TI sheet is being submitted

He passed tech to set the stock record and we passed tech at Fontana

I don't know - seems to me - you grab a set of veneers and measure it - some things seem simple

Dave told me he has a blue print from MOPAR on how it is measured - sorry us old school guys are just not up to date


Too bad for Dave - no record - loss of travel costs - loss of entry fee - not to mention him being besmirched
(beĀ·smirch: 1.Damage the reputation of (someone or something) in the opinion of others)

Watch out new COPOs it has happend to the other two brands



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Old 04-30-2012, 06:57 PM   #2
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oh well ***** happens...still a damn fine looking Drag Pak Challenger though.

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Old 04-30-2012, 09:33 PM   #3
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Default Re: wrong spec submitted by MOPAR

It can happen to anybody, especially with a "new" car and depending on the manufacturer for the correct info. Not intentional by any stretch of the imagination.

What were they measuring? Head dia., overall length, tip length or what? Can't imagine anybody measuring a valve head differently??? Inquiring minds want to know. Any hints or is it hush hush??

Just wondering........

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Old 05-01-2012, 03:38 PM   #4
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oh well ***** happens...still a damn fine looking Drag Pak Challenger though.

Cool looking car !

20-30 years from now, it will still look cool.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:11 PM   #5
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Cool looking car !

20-30 years from now, it will still look cool.
I agree...also wonder if they will have this all figured out by then...race politics.

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The reason for Dave Thomas's DQ this weekend

MOPAR engineering measures the valves differently than NHRA

A new TI sheet is being submitted

He passed tech to set the stock record and we passed tech at Fontana

I don't know - seems to me - you grab a set of veneers and measure it - some things seem simple

Dave told me he has a blue print from MOPAR on how it is measured - sorry us old school guys are just not up to date


Too bad for Dave - no record - loss of travel costs - loss of entry fee - not to mention him being besmirched
(beĀ·smirch: 1.Damage the reputation of (someone or something) in the opinion of others)

Watch out new COPOs it has happend to the other two brands



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Unfortunately, most people don't care about whose fault it was or why it happened. To them "You got bounced in teardown" or worse yet "You got caught cheating"
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:25 PM   #7
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Unfortunately, most people don't care about whose fault it was or why it happened. To them "You got bounced in teardown" or worse yet "You got caught cheating"
Dave was not cheating - It was MOPAR's mistake

It was the head (big end) they were measuring - as I said - how in the f... could MOPAR possibly screw that up or need a blueprint

I am sure I will hear about being so hard on MOPAR - if an engine builder made the same mistake - there would be hell to pay - not just - as one person put it on this thread "***** happens"

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Old 05-01-2012, 07:31 AM   #8
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Wink Re: wrong spec submitted by MOPAR

If memory serves, the same thing happened recently to Charlie Downing. What's with these corporate engineers? Give them a fancy name and they forget the simple stuff? Jim

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Old 05-01-2012, 07:57 AM   #9
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As I remember it happened to Ford a few times
1966 or 1967 427 pistons
1st year of new CJ's pistons
The next year it was something else
Charley Bobs deal
It happens when people don't know how NHRA does things. They don't do everything wright but they do have the final call!
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:02 AM   #10
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What was the deal with Irv's deal?
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