My First Look at the CJ's - Page 5

Alan Roehrich · 03-14-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cwigle

Alan,

I do not no of any TV commercials of the sort, There was some nice articles printed within the racing world though. I would think that at the events this year it would be played up, that is were the largest fan base is. It’s the little things that make a difference Last year at Indy I received a phone call from Brian Wolf congratulating me on my efforts for class; I did not win but gave it my best effort. That sort of thing goes a long way for me.

Colin

Colin,
You've done very well, your car is impressive. That Brian Wolf called you shows that he is one of the good guys. And that is definitely very cool. Congratulations, and good luck.

I saw a few flashes about Calvert's win, but nothing of substance, which begs the question, "where's the beef?" Where's the "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" marketing?

Alan Roehrich · 03-14-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

I wonder how much the "corporate" guys actually had to do with these cars? I bet it took a lot to get them past the bean counters. I really doubt that the bean counters and shareholders were the driving force behind a project that is this small.

The corporate guys have nothing to do with getting something like this started. They have everything to do with how much is spent, and a lot to do with where it is spent. Corporate guys allow something like this to happen, they don't make it happen. But then they start looking for their return on their money spent. When 2-3 big corporations start getting involved in something way smaller than they are, they bring a whole lot of leverage and power. You have to wonder what they want, and what they're willing to do to get it.

GUMP · 03-14-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

The corporate guys have nothing to do with getting something like this started. They have everything to do with how much is spent, and a lot to do with where it is spent. Corporate guys allow something like this to happen, they don't make it happen. But then they start looking for their return on their money spent. When 2-3 big corporations start getting involved in something way smaller than they are, they bring a whole lot of leverage and power. You have to wonder what they want, and what they're willing to do to get it.

Oh, kind of like the the COPO Camaros in 1969?

Alan Roehrich · 03-14-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

Oh, kind of like the the COPO Camaros in 1969?

Keep reaching. One day, you might get there.

And besides, anything that MIGHT have happened in the past, depending on your perspective, is an excuse to repeat that same error, again, and again, and again. Like a bunch of three year olds "he did it too! he did it first!".

GUMP · 03-14-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Keep reaching. One day, you might get there.

And besides, anything that MIGHT have happened in the past, depending on your perspective, is an excuse to repeat that same error, again, and again, and again. Like a bunch of three year olds "he did it too! he did it first!".

I wouldn't go so far as to say that the COPO Camaro was an error. I think that they are pretty cool! (LOL).

My point is that those cars were cutting edge for 1969 and were aimed directly at Stock. I applaud the NHRA for having the AA classes, so that some more of the "cutting edge" sixties combinations can compete. I am also really excited about the fact that more than one manufacturer is looking towards our form of racing at the same time. When was the last time that they were serious about being the "Top Dog" in Stock?

BlueOval Ralph · 03-14-2009, 05:59 PM

ok ok

69Cobra · 03-14-2009, 06:00 PM

Well let me say this about the new vs. old cars in Stock. I've been looking very hard at putting our 69 Fairlane Cobra back together to compete in Stock. All I need to do to make our car legal is build a legal engine. No big deal right? Now the question is what do I need to do to be competitive in Stock with a 40 year old set up that has been run through the mill by NHRA over the years. So my dilema is do I spend $15,000 or so on a competitive engine to put in a 40 year old car with 117" wb. Or do I build a new CJ clone and be competitive right out of the gate? To me this car has put a fire under me to make a move into Stock knowing I've got a strut front end a 3 link which is basically a 4 link style rear end with coil over springs. Then I have the option of a 5 speed over a 4 speed. To me its a no brainer just money. I would really like to know more on how to get the CJ parts from Ford to build a clone if anybody knows anything (Kenny) drop me a PM.

Thanks,

Kris Rachford

GUMP · 03-14-2009, 06:37 PM

Some info here...

http://www.fordracingparts.com/mustang/herocard10.asp

Ken Miele · 03-14-2009, 07:03 PM

Larry, I'm glad I could help. We all need to smile once in a while. I have to head home. I think the next race we might be at together will be Norwalk, if not that, you know I will be at Indy.

I don't drink but would love to BS about what we do up north.

Talk to you soon, keep us posted on what happens at Belle Rose, we are all counting on you and Patsy.

69Cobra · 03-14-2009, 08:29 PM

These cars can run in S/S right? If so what class would they be in?

03-14-2009, 05:59 PM	#46
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's ok ok Last edited by BlueOval Ralph; 03-15-2009 at 06:29 AM.

03-14-2009, 06:00 PM	#47
69Cobra Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California, Ky Posts: 669 Likes: 61 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Well let me say this about the new vs. old cars in Stock. I've been looking very hard at putting our 69 Fairlane Cobra back together to compete in Stock. All I need to do to make our car legal is build a legal engine. No big deal right? Now the question is what do I need to do to be competitive in Stock with a 40 year old set up that has been run through the mill by NHRA over the years. So my dilema is do I spend $15,000 or so on a competitive engine to put in a 40 year old car with 117" wb. Or do I build a new CJ clone and be competitive right out of the gate? To me this car has put a fire under me to make a move into Stock knowing I've got a strut front end a 3 link which is basically a 4 link style rear end with coil over springs. Then I have the option of a 5 speed over a 4 speed. To me its a no brainer just money. I would really like to know more on how to get the CJ parts from Ford to build a clone if anybody knows anything (Kenny) drop me a PM. Thanks, Kris Rachford __________________ Kris Rachford 69 Cobra 428CJ 4 Speed C/S 3032 Last edited by 69Cobra; 03-14-2009 at 06:09 PM.

03-14-2009, 06:37 PM	#48
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,823 Likes: 2,166 Liked 2,353 Times in 554 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Some info here... http://www.fordracingparts.com/mustang/herocard10.asp

03-14-2009, 07:03 PM	#49
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,554 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Larry, I'm glad I could help. We all need to smile once in a while. I have to head home. I think the next race we might be at together will be Norwalk, if not that, you know I will be at Indy. I don't drink but would love to BS about what we do up north. Talk to you soon, keep us posted on what happens at Belle Rose, we are all counting on you and Patsy.

03-14-2009, 08:29 PM	#50
69Cobra Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California, Ky Posts: 669 Likes: 61 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's These cars can run in S/S right? If so what class would they be in? __________________ Kris Rachford 69 Cobra 428CJ 4 Speed C/S 3032

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