And the penalties are???

[Gary Summers]

For everyone’s information, my carburetor is not an after market product & does NOT have after market boosters. The carburetor that was thrown out is an obsolete, 50 year old carburetor. I am confident in saying that Quick Fuel would not manufacture an illegal carburetor. This carburetor that was taken from me has been passed thru tech inspection in divisions 2,3,4 & 5. No changes were made since the last tech inspection, but for some unknown reason, it failed the inspection at the Baby Gators. Racers that run 4 barrell Holley carburetors that have after market boosters instead of stock like mine, BEWARE! Especially if you have a Ford!

[L.Fite]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Kelly, what's missing here is that there are apparently at least two conflicting stories and rules enforcements going on. For the past few years (since NHRA approved the use of "aftermarket" carburetors in place of certain Holley carbs) NHRA's "policy" has been to "only check venturi size and throttle bores". Carb boosters became a moot point because the "aftermarket" carbs that they approved had completely different boosters in them compared to the OEM carbs.
Now I'll be right up-front here and tell you that the boosters in one of my combos aren't the original or correct boosters but when I mentioned it to an NHRA Tech, I was told the "venturi size and throttle bore" story. Am I legal? Am I not? I've been allowed to run. If I am suddenly NOT legal, I wish that somebody would let me know of a policy or rule change! I don't like being ambushed!
I am certainly not one of Mr. Summers best buddies and I don't know if there is more to the story but from what I've read I would say that Mr. Summers was ambushed.

When I asked Tech. in reference to 396/427, I was also told venturi and throttle bore...
I said "so any 3310 Holley?"...
They said yes...
So I don't know...
The rule also states "no polishing or removal of flash"...
Is that what the Tech. Official saw?...

What I do know is if I had a 50 yr. old vintage carb. I'm not so sure I would allow them to keep it...

We'll have to see what happens if I ever find myself in that predicament...

[Mike Gray]

Okay I'm not new to racing having raced a SST and SG car at divisional and National events. Now I'm building a new stock eliminator car and hope to complete it this year.
I knew NHRA could take your parts and hold them but is there a time period? Do they keep them forever and what's the point? Do they plan on selling them some day and keep the money (That should be a conflict of interest)
I spent a lot of money building my new car from scratch and I have used resources and suppliers from all over the country. I know the specs for my combo but what if I overlook something that I paid a well know builder / supplier for such as the carb, If it fails tech do they confiscate my expensive carb or do they just DQ me and say get it fixed or replaced? Can I ask for a thorough tech inspection before ever going down the track based on it's a new car? I would think if any problems came up I could withdraw and take it home and not give up expensive parts. (And it is a Ford)

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Gary Summers

For everyone’s information, my carburetor is not an after market product & does NOT have after market boosters. The carburetor that was thrown out is an obsolete, 50 year old carburetor. I am confident in saying that Quick Fuel would not manufacture an illegal carburetor. This carburetor that was taken from me has been passed thru tech inspection in divisions 2,3,4 & 5. No changes were made since the last tech inspection, but for some unknown reason, it failed the inspection at the Baby Gators. Racers that run 4 barrell Holley carburetors that have after market boosters instead of stock like mine, BEWARE! Especially if you have a Ford!

Gary, your performance is exceptional, however I'll qualify my response, I raced a Max Wedge car through out the eighties and it ran with or beyond a very stout crowd in D1.
We were scrutinized constantly at every race.
Do you think maybe they're looking at stuff more carefully in 2021 to ensure a very integral and lucrative sector of their business?

[rick winchester]

If Summers car was legal or not, 2500 $ fine for a tech infraction is Bull **** period. His car is fast ,Damn fast because he picked then right horse for the race, hard work and smart enough to use what NHRA decided was the proper HP and class for his combo. Toss him out ,or whatever But I repeat 2500 $ fine is Bull. I bet that Walley Parks is rolling over in his grave. Sad Day for all Sportsman racers. Beware , this kind of crap is only going to get worse. Next thing you know they will be charging for water in the box, fee for time slips and rental for pit spots. Rick

[jimmyparker]

Gary's penalty was described earlier in this thread as a slap on the wrist, $2500 in my neighborhood is a wee bit more than a slap on the wrist.

Rick, we are paying for time slips when you have to buy an app to get your run data.

[RNNChrisbarnes]

. Next thing you know they will be charging for water in the box, fee for time slips and rental for pit spots. Rick[/QUOTE]



Don't give them any more ideas of how to fleece you guys. LOL

[GTS340]

It might be the numerous times found wrong. The other person didn't get a fine, right?

[Cbrinson47]

[QUOTE=Mike Pearson;636745]

Years back I won class at the gators and went through tear down. One of my intake valves measured .001 under the low limit. The valve was badly tuliped. I was tossed for the event and had to show up at the next event with the head off and have the valve size checked before I could race. I was also placed on 6 mos. tech probation. That infraction was considered minor. FYI I put new valves in the heads for the next race and the car picked up a tenth.


Did you know that the factory tolerance on a micrometer, Dial indicator, or dial caliper is plus or minus .001. I know this because I used to calibrate precision tools for the Dept. of the Navy. They should be checked with "GAGE BLOCKS" a least once a year. Tools being treated to rough treatment as in running all over the U.S. should be certified at least several times a year. Do you really think most tools being used by the NHRA tech. dept. have been certified?

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Cbrinson47

Did you know that the factory tolerance on a micrometer, Dial indicator, or dial caliper is plus or minus .001. I know this because I used to calibrate precision tools for the Dept. of the Navy. They should be checked with "GAGE BLOCKS" a least once a year. Tools being treated to rough treatment as in running all over the U.S. should be certified at least several times a year. Do you really think most tools being used by the NHRA tech. dept. have been certified?

Not only that, but if one of them is dropped it needs to be set aside and sent in to be checked / calibrated.

Stan