Current rules you’d like to see enforced

[Adub464Q]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Gump
I believe the rule states no pushing or cooling of cars past the head of staging lanes. I was told by NHRA head of staging lanes is the start line just before the burn out box. I know this because NHRA and myself got in a Disagreement about this three or four years ago in brainerd and they told me I was right afterwards.
This is same line your dial in must be on before you enter the burnout box, I believe the one at Indy is about 20 feet behind the burn out box (like most tracks) I have never seen anyone running a cooling box past that line.

Captain I have no problem with you running a turbo glide that’s what the car came with. But a turbo glide is about as close to a 200 metric or 350 turbo as a 9inch ford rear end is to a 12 gm bolt rear end.

Charlie Bob, this actually came up at Topeka divisional last year as competitors were forced to chill in their pits. I fought with the tech dept on this until they pulled out a rulebook and read it to me personally and I was incorrect. The rule reads as follows:

General Regulations, Section 21, Page 5
Fuel/Air: Any method of artificially cooling or heating fuel
prohibited (i.e., cool cans, Freon, wet rags, etc.), except as
noted in Class Requirements. Cool cans, wet towels, etc. are
permitted in Super Stock, Stock, Super Comp, Super Gas,
Super Street, and E.T. classes. Wet towels, rags, ice, etc. must
be removed before vehicle leaves staging area. Coolers, chillers,
etc., where permitted by class requirements, are prohibited
outside of the competitor’s pit. Ambient-temperature air only;
cooling or otherwise changing the conditions of the intake air is
prohibited. Spraying of intake with any artificial spray or coolant
prohibited.

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

Charlie Bob, this actually came up at Topeka divisional last year as competitors were forced to chill in their pits. I fought with the tech dept on this until they pulled out a rulebook and read it to me personally and I was incorrect. The rule reads as follows:

General Regulations, Section 21, Page 5
Fuel/Air: Any method of artificially cooling or heating fuel
prohibited (i.e., cool cans, Freon, wet rags, etc.), except as
noted in Class Requirements. Cool cans, wet towels, etc. are
permitted in Super Stock, Stock, Super Comp, Super Gas,
Super Street, and E.T. classes. Wet towels, rags, ice, etc. must
be removed before vehicle leaves staging area. Coolers, chillers,
etc., where permitted by class requirements, are prohibited
outside of the competitor’s pit. Ambient-temperature air only;
cooling or otherwise changing the conditions of the intake air is
prohibited. Spraying of intake with any artificial spray or coolant
prohibited.

I for one dont care which way the rule should be written, but I have 2 questions.
1 With the current way rule is written can you leave ice in the cool fuel container when going down track?
2 I asked this question before but having bags of ice on the hood constitute cooling the air around carb?

[doglover44]

How do people keep doing certain stuff and not get caught/busted ?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Captain I have no problem with you running a turbo glide that’s what the car came with. But a turbo glide is about as close to a 200 metric or 350 turbo as a 9inch ford rear end is to a 12 gm bolt rear end.

Hey Charlie-Bob, just for clarity's sake, how close is a T-5 to a G-Force or a Jericho?

[fordteacherguy]

Originally Posted by scott gray

how about they just enforce the rules n not change them to pander to the few and vocal that want everything according to their way of thinking !!

BRING INTEGRITY BACK TO STOCK RACING.ALL WINNERS UNDERGO / PASS TECHNICAL INSPECTION!

Vehicles aren't being teched at all anymore for legality unless you set a record or go 1.20 under (and then only maybe) ...the easiest way to enforce what rules we have is to enforce it at the end of the race and set up a system of applying points and winnings if a competitor is found bogus. You want a check and a Wally...prove you are legal.

Easily done....one car per class to tear down after racing is done....

Only two things keep racers in line from cheating ...integrity/paranoia.

[Randall Klein]

The problem (s) I see with tear down after racing is that racers and tech maybe want to get home to real jobs and families. Long weekend for both. Too often I driven 6-9 hours half asleep to make work Monday morning.

[Rod Greene]

In the Farmer days every class winner tore down.

[Carguy49]

How about bringing STOCK back to Stock Eliminator???

I know I don't race myself anymore, and I am NOT trying to throw anyone under the bus.

I love Stock and Super Stock, but I see lots of things that do NOT reflect the intent of Stock.

[Stephen Belanger]

We should Outlaw Dry Ice,cool cans, thin oil,chevy2 oil pans. Any run under 1.00 your beer drinking buddy has to take your throttle body or carb off and let everyone with the same combo look at it. If you go 1.20 under you have to take your car all the way apart motor,trans,rearend lay it all out on card board in your pit area for everyone to look at and take pictures because you have to be cheating because you are not smart enough to go that fast.

[Kenney Kelley]

Originally Posted by Stephen Belanger

We should Outlaw Dry Ice,cool cans, thin oil,chevy2 oil pans. Any run under 1.00 your beer drinking buddy has to take your throttle body or carb off and let everyone with the same combo look at it. If you go 1.20 under you have to take your car all the way apart motor,trans,rearend lay it all out on card board in your pit area for everyone to look at and take pictures because you have to be cheating because you are not smart enough to go that fast.

Mr Belanger could you please tell me how one using a NHRA Accepted Stock Replacement Oil Pan # Milodon 31060 on a 67 Chevy ll is cheating or gaining a performance advantage?
Kenney Kelley