2016 Shoot Out Rules posted

Jeff Teuton · 02-23-2016, 06:21 PM

As we had heard, the unblown cars are written out the program, unless they can run faster than a blown car. Imagine that. Fastest 8 get to run. Don't matter which motor. Sounds like a Chevrolet deal to me. It's no secret Chevy has not done too well in the Naturally Aspirated classes in the shoot outs. So just write out the rest of us. Bo Butner, Kevin Helms, David Barton, just for starters now have Stock Eliminator cars only and those guys just come to mind early. There are a few more. Hawk is a player. Some V10 cars (mine included) So it's blown or nothing.

V M Kauffman · 02-23-2016, 06:41 PM

How long have you been around. As long as NHRA DRIVES CHEVYS THEY WILL GET THE NOD!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

As we had heard, the unblown cars are written out the program, unless they can run faster than a blown car. Imagine that. Fastest 8 get to run. Don't matter which motor. Sounds like a Chevrolet deal to me. It's no secret Chevy has not done too well in the Naturally Aspirated classes in the shoot outs. So just write out the rest of us. Bo Butner, Kevin Helms, David Barton, just for starters now have Stock Eliminator cars only and those guys just come to mind early. There are a few more. Hawk is a player. Some V10 cars (mine included) So it's blown or nothing.

Superfan1 · 02-23-2016, 06:46 PM

Leave it to the NHRA to screw up a good thing!

Superfan1 · 02-23-2016, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

As we had heard, the unblown cars are written out the program, unless they can run faster than a blown car. Imagine that. Fastest 8 get to run. Don't matter which motor. Sounds like a Chevrolet deal to me. It's no secret Chevy has not done too well in the Naturally Aspirated classes in the shoot outs. So just write out the rest of us. Bo Butner, Kevin Helms, David Barton, just for starters now have Stock Eliminator cars only and those guys just come to mind early. There are a few more. Hawk is a player. Some V10 cars (mine included) So it's blown or nothing.

Jeff, David Barton is entered for Gainesville in FS/A with a 2015 COPO with a supercharged 350. I believe that the car is owned by Gary Wolkwitz of SS/AH fame.

Andys dad · 02-23-2016, 07:03 PM

Jeff - as we discussed numeroouss times - they were never going to put enough weight on the blower cars to make "heads up" sense and they sure did not want a handicap start for the "NA"cars.

NBD - We can stay focused and not worry about the shoot out - we just have blower cars co-mingled in our class until they "blow" themselves out - LOL

Ron
Durham-Motorsports

Mike Keener · 02-23-2016, 07:29 PM

Looks like the field of cars just reduced it self by one half1

NO WAY THIS DEAL WORKS WITHOUT COMING UP WITH A SYSTEM TO SLOW THE BLOWER CARS DOWN! There is no way to stack enough weight in them for their to ever be any parity so the NA cars get screwed as a result. The fans could care less whether these cars run 7.99 or they run 8.75. It's heads up racing they want to see!

What's next when these cars exceed the roll cage rules? Who wants torch the cage out of their 150,000 car to put a funny car cage in it?

Bad idea NHRA.. This decision just cost me a ton of money. Good thing I still have my trusty 67 Camaro.

Rat Raceway · 02-23-2016, 07:42 PM

Bummer!

Dick Butler · 02-23-2016, 08:26 PM

Welcome to the SS wars of 1960s all over again. Factories get excited to win, NHRA collects more money and racers, racers get factored, new parts arrive weekly and the end is in sight again. Apples against oranges or lemons still cannot be factored to race heads up.
Not trying to rain on parade but are we really surprised by the issues? responses and problems?
Fake HP and factoring are again the problems.

Brett C · 02-24-2016, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

As we had heard, the unblown cars are written out the program, unless they can run faster than a blown car. Imagine that. Fastest 8 get to run. Don't matter which motor. Sounds like a Chevrolet deal to me. It's no secret Chevy has not done too well in the Naturally Aspirated classes in the shoot outs. So just write out the rest of us. Bo Butner, Kevin Helms, David Barton, just for starters now have Stock Eliminator cars only and those guys just come to mind early. There are a few more. Hawk is a player. Some V10 cars (mine included) So it's blown or nothing.

Any chance that those who were N/A before (and competitive) that switched to blown combos in the off season knew before the rest of us??? Hmmm!

David Barton · 02-24-2016, 08:28 AM

This is all news to me. I wish I had connections like that.

I personally think this is a great start to something better for those who want to make the move. It's certainly not for everyone, I get that, but it separates them from the rest of the field which is exactly what everyone has been asking for. They're also giving people a chance to try it with an alternative if they don't qualify. At least the NHRA is trying to make it work. I'm very surprised to see this in motion. Maybe it's because the NMCA lit a fire under their behinds?

The way I read the rules I thought they meant quickest 8 from each class. I hope I'm right. Would be stupid otherwise.

02-23-2016, 06:21 PM	#1
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	2016 Shoot Out Rules posted As we had heard, the unblown cars are written out the program, unless they can run faster than a blown car. Imagine that. Fastest 8 get to run. Don't matter which motor. Sounds like a Chevrolet deal to me. It's no secret Chevy has not done too well in the Naturally Aspirated classes in the shoot outs. So just write out the rest of us. Bo Butner, Kevin Helms, David Barton, just for starters now have Stock Eliminator cars only and those guys just come to mind early. There are a few more. Hawk is a player. Some V10 cars (mine included) So it's blown or nothing. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

02-23-2016, 06:46 PM	#3
Superfan1 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bridgeport,CT. Posts: 1,992 Likes: 1,664 Liked 2,633 Times in 439 Posts	Re: 2016 Shoot Out Rules posted Leave it to the NHRA to screw up a good thing! __________________ Bill Seabrooks - superfan1 Bridgeport, CT

02-23-2016, 07:03 PM	#5
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: 2016 Shoot Out Rules posted Jeff - as we discussed numeroouss times - they were never going to put enough weight on the blower cars to make "heads up" sense and they sure did not want a handicap start for the "NA"cars. NBD - We can stay focused and not worry about the shoot out - we just have blower cars co-mingled in our class until they "blow" themselves out - LOL Ron Durham-Motorsports __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham

02-23-2016, 07:29 PM	#6
Mike Keener Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 294 Likes: 102 Liked 24 Times in 13 Posts	Re: 2016 Shoot Out Rules posted Looks like the field of cars just reduced it self by one half1 NO WAY THIS DEAL WORKS WITHOUT COMING UP WITH A SYSTEM TO SLOW THE BLOWER CARS DOWN! There is no way to stack enough weight in them for their to ever be any parity so the NA cars get screwed as a result. The fans could care less whether these cars run 7.99 or they run 8.75. It's heads up racing they want to see! What's next when these cars exceed the roll cage rules? Who wants torch the cage out of their 150,000 car to put a funny car cage in it? Bad idea NHRA.. This decision just cost me a ton of money. Good thing I still have my trusty 67 Camaro. __________________ Mike Keener A/S B/S C/SM

02-23-2016, 07:42 PM	#7
Rat Raceway Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Denver Co Posts: 408 Likes: 282 Liked 35 Times in 17 Posts	Re: 2016 Shoot Out Rules posted Bummer! __________________ Ross Gregory 5133 Stock,Super Stock 53 Top Dragster Last edited by Rat Raceway; 02-24-2016 at 03:42 PM.

02-23-2016, 08:26 PM	#8
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 2016 Shoot Out Rules posted Welcome to the SS wars of 1960s all over again. Factories get excited to win, NHRA collects more money and racers, racers get factored, new parts arrive weekly and the end is in sight again. Apples against oranges or lemons still cannot be factored to race heads up. Not trying to rain on parade but are we really surprised by the issues? responses and problems? Fake HP and factoring are again the problems.

02-24-2016, 08:28 AM	#10
David Barton Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 199 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2016 Shoot Out Rules posted This is all news to me. I wish I had connections like that. I personally think this is a great start to something better for those who want to make the move. It's certainly not for everyone, I get that, but it separates them from the rest of the field which is exactly what everyone has been asking for. They're also giving people a chance to try it with an alternative if they don't qualify. At least the NHRA is trying to make it work. I'm very surprised to see this in motion. Maybe it's because the NMCA lit a fire under their behinds? The way I read the rules I thought they meant quickest 8 from each class. I hope I'm right. Would be stupid otherwise.

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