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[X-TECH MAN]

[QUOTE=Ken Miele And when its all said and done, and I'm dead, what the hell did it all mean anyway, if we were not happy.

That say's it all !

[Lynn A McCarty]

Not everyone has a credit score on the bad side or the good side. Many people are between. I was told that it takes a credit score of 720 to 750 to buy a car right now. Before you could buy a car with a 600 credit score. I gotta tell you there are millions in this category. I think enough to justify 30% of the auto industry sales.

If you are going to critique NHRA and GM go ahead we are listening. Use a false pretense that they are down destroys creditibility, and we just quit listening. GM is not down on sales because they are not building fuel efficient cars and hybrids until the markets change and make it that way.

It is a political objective trying to make hay with a false reality. It arguably can prove more they are right than they are wrong. Not seeing the difference is not conducive to reasonable thought. These arguments to push these political objectives must be called on the carpet and I for one will do it. If you are going negative, you better not have any holes in your argument or you will most certainly lose. A false pretense is a very big hole.

Ditto Ken!

[Bruce Noland]

Poking holes in false arguments? GM got into a lot of trouble as it lost market share. How are you going to poke holes in that story?

Look at all the nhra pros who are out of work. Look at nhra reduced salaries. Look at the reduced nhra tech staff. Look at the reduced car counts.

The whole performance industry is in trouble. How are you going to poke holes in that little bit of news?

[Lynn A McCarty]

If you are going back to find numbers of the last multimillion dollar lottery, it would be very easy right? Just look in the paper or the internet. If you arent correct you gotta be the dumbest person on the planet for not looking it up first. Win it with no fail next time ahead of time! Almost impossible odds. Looking back on decisions in the past makes us all geniuses....or at least to those who are that gullible to believe so.

All business makes poor decisions some more than others. Many of them are because lawyers and congress forces us to promote political agendas. You know like saying GM doesnt build cars we want, and ignoring that 30-40% of their customers can no longer get a loan! GM was making money before gas at 4.19 per gallon and the credit crises, those are facts.

If there was an overreaching reason for hybrid and electric cars the market conditions would have forced it through consumer demand years ago. We dont need a false political agenda.

I went to an NMCA race in Bowling Green Kentucky last summer and it reminded me of a points race in the 1970's. Who says NHRA isnt doing a good job? My G-6 gets 36mpg going 65 and 40mpg going 55 (21-23mpg when Annette drives it) Congrats GM and congrats NHRA.

Do I think NHRA is missing an opportunity to market S and SSers? Absolutely, let us start from there with reality not a false premise while also buying a G-6 or Malibu......if you have cash or a 720 or 750 minimum credit score!

I still havent figured out what science allows me to pull my stacker with an electric wind generator propeller on the front!

[John Quinn]

Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty

I went to an NMCA race in Bowling Green Kentucky last summer and it reminded me of a points race in the 1970's. Who says NHRA isnt doing a good job? (

Is that meant to be a negative for NMCA? I had a lot of fun at points races in the 70's. If NHRA was doing a good job there would be more posts about having fun.

[Alan Roehrich]

Lynn, if GM was making money before gas hit $4 a gallon, why were they continually posting quarterly losses in the millions, and even billions, of dollars, for the last several years?

It's real easy to try to lay the blame for this massive mess we're in on a short term period of $4 a gallon gas and a "credit crunch". But it ignores all of the real factors. Gas prices and financial institutions collapsing were not the cause, gas prices were an excuse, and the collapses were a symptom of the base problem.

I can lay out the failures at GM, it'll take a while, but they are obvious. The question is, will you listen, or are you convinced it is "credit" driven? By the way, easy credit is what got us here, the lack of it, if it is really lacking, is not why we are here.

[Jack Matyas]

The first three posts were about the SRAC -- and the next twenty-seven got way off base -- what happened ? ? ?

[Jim Cimarolli]

If all this means that in a few years we will all have to drive a damned Ford, I'm headed to the post office to commit a felony! I'd rather be in prison!

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Jim Cimarolli

If all this means that in a few years we will all have to drive a damned Ford, I'm headed to the post office to commit a felony! I'd rather be in prison!

LOL.

GM makes a great vehicle, but Ford is doing a better job at business these days, a lot better.

[X-TECH MAN]

Detroit went out of business in 1971 when the last REAL Hemi was installed in the 'Cudas and Challengers. Dont get me wrong here. Im a Chebbie guy but that was the last of any real muscle cars. The crap detroit is making from that point on is just Govt. mandated transportation for the masses. When the Govt. stepped in it killed everything any true gear head was in to. My 3 cents worth.