Bogus Cobra jet HP- PROOF!

[Chad Rhodes]

In the June 09 Race Pages magazine (NMRA, National Mustang Racing Association) they got their hands on a 6 spd new CJ. With no mods other than a tune, it made 617 on PUMP GAS at the tires. On 100 octane (not even close to C-16 or C-25), with a conservative tune and the belt slipping it made 637 at the wheels. Using a very conservative 15% driveline loss it makes 749 Flywheel HP. This is way beyond what any 427, hemi, old shelby, 396 or LS1 will make in stocker trim. Mind you that these cars havent even been taken or apart or the pulleys been swapped (the blower is bigger than the GT500 by the way!).

I know this subject has been beat to death but here it is in black and white. I will try and scan the article tonight but i am trying to get ready to go to houston in the AM.

[Chad Rhodes]

[Tim Ellis]

Very good comment Ed, ya gotta admit, IT IS STOCK!

[Tim Ellis]

I mean... that Is the class it runs... isnt it?

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Tim Ellis

Very good comment Ed, ya gotta admit, IT IS STOCK!

its stock because it was designed to be a race car. Give a C6 z06 a 425 hp rating and lets put one of those in AA/SA. factory race car vs factory race car, although the chevy is meant to be a roadracer/street car

[RJ]

That's a good idea, why not give the latest GM offerings an advantageous factor too? - Then the big (little?) 3 can ALL have a chance to compete against each other on equal footing.

[bigshow2966]

You will not see what the CJ's can really do until Indy. After that they will get horsepower and the crying can cease.

You think the HP numbers for the Challenger are realistic? They should be real fast for a while too.

[Gary Smith]

Originally Posted by Ed OBrien

Well as all the fast guys tell the slow guys you better start working on your stuff ! The funny part of all this is their more stock than anything out there ! Have a nice day

What's more incredible is the streetability of the CJ engine. With a Tremec trans, mufflers, and street gears I assume it would be no different than any other "hot rod" street 'Stang. I can't get over the smooth idle. Try driving an "old school" stocker on the street. Not sure about other stick racers, but because of the short cam lobe separation mine would be a challenge at maintaining low speed.

[bill dedman]

J Heath said, " I have never seen more crying about 1(one) car(combo) such as this."

That's because you've never seen such an unfair, ridiculously UNDER-FACTORED car enter Stock Eliminator before.
(with apologies to Bob Shaw)

It's never happened.

Nobody has a problem with the car, itself; it's the NHRA-mandated HP factor they put on it that is the problem.

Fix the factor and the problem will go away.


What's wrong with that?

[Dick Butler]

If the car were in the books and found by a racer and built and appeared with this same underrated HP some would call the guy a hero and an industrious star of Stock and SS.
The fact it is new, it has today type factory support and is fairly expensive and limited in availability brings up the jealousy in many people. It seems a BBC cobalt, a 400 , a Turbo Mustang, a ..........(fill in the blank) cant hold a light to the upset created by it.
Like to race NHRA? Feel they really care about this type of oversight? Good Luck with that. They will essentially allow anything in Sportsman racing if someone will build it and PAY ENTRY.They have justified Participant racing in S and SS and Sportsman level in general and efficiently ignore the workings as long as the GATE MONEY covers overhead and keeps it profitable. Good Luck