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Old 01-17-2015, 07:37 PM   #1
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Default Re: Ol' Fart's Firebird Fantasy

Now, here's something I found interesting. All the info I can find says that the 455 was available in late '75 TA's. I even found some pics of a restored 455 HO '75 TA.

Now they were HO in words only. There was absolutely nothing different in the TA engine and a 455 wagon engine. But anyhow, I wonder why the classracerinfo site doesn't show that it was indeed available in a '75 TA ?

http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...px?ENGINE=2098
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Old 01-17-2015, 02:56 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ol' Fart's Firebird Fantasy

OK, that 1st post was just a little background info. Now for the thread. Both TJ(my wife) and I began racing in Stock class. We both won quite a few races. But, then all the small tracks in our area started running nothing but bracket.

I'd noticed that the stockers today are running at least 2 sec quicker than we did back then. That got my curiosity up. So I started doing a little research to see if I could find out how they are able to go so quick. The HPP mag article about Scott Burton's B/SA '70 RA4 Bird, answered a lot of my questions. But it also brought up a lot of other questions.

Then I found this site. But most of you guys were using terms that I was not familiar with. I could tell that you guys were just taking for granted that all the other guys on the site knew all the terminology. Anyhow, I snooped around long enuff to come across Brent's '68 Firebird thread. I was very interested in it, because he was building the same combo TJ raced, way back yonder. And, he was trying to do it on a budget.

While searching for other Pontiac builds, I ran across Mr. Billy's $1000 Pontiac 301 thread. That really picked up my interest. I had never even heard the term "dime rocket". I could tell that most of the quick Stockers today are high dollar builds. So to read about running under the index on a small budget, was a fun read. Anyhow, it got me to thinking about what I could build, on a small budget, that could possibly run the index.

Now understand that my local tracks don't run class--only bracket. But they've started having a division race near Shreveport, which is about a 2 hour pull. I may never even try to build another Stocker. But it's fun to think about ! So, I decided to dig into it and see just exactly what it would take to build a low buck Pontiac Stocker that would run it's index.

I figure that even if I never actually do the build, this thread will be very interesting, at least to me, and might provide some good info that will help somebody else who is considering a build themselves.

I know that some of you guys don't reveal your Stocker secrets. I'm OK with that. But I'll be asking a LOT of questions about exact details. So, for all you guys who have the experience and the time, and are willing to share, I'd appreciate your input and opinions !

One thing I'd like to request is that when you mention a particular part, that you also mention aprox cost(since this is a budget build thread)where to buy it, including a link or contact info. I say this because, I have been unable to find a source for some of the parts that I've seen mentioned. When I see a part I'm interested in, I like to be able to click on a quick link and learn more about it--price, specs, etc.

If I had plenty of $$, I'd just buy a new motorhome, trailer and a competitive Pontiac and go racing. But since that doesn't seem to be the case right now, I'll settle for this budget build thread. So there is no reason to say, you get what you pay for, and suggest the most expensive parts, for this particular build. Instead, it will have to consist of barely get by, cheaper stuff. I realize that some would not even consider racing if they could not have the best of everything and run close to a sec or more under. But then there are the rest of us who just love to race, with whatever we can afford. TJ and I have won lots of races with our low budget Pontiacs. So, I know how rewarding it can be.

Lookin forward to learning a lot from this thread. And I'd like to thank ya'll in advance for providing helpful info from your experience. And for any who may be considering a build, please feel free to ask questions on this thread, so we all can learn from it.
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