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Old 01-10-2010, 07:22 PM   #1
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We're already racing for no money, no recognition, and no fans.
Exactly.

Yet none of you in the inner circle are very open to new people and new cars, are you?

Perhaps we should just cancel Class Racing for good.

It's your choice. What are you going to choose? Let Class Racing die with the old guard? Or try to revive it with new blood?

(oh - and I didn't suggest what you should or shouldn't like.)
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:54 PM   #2
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Thanks Chad ! Now let's talk about the Rear End, and the Rear, as well as the Front suspension. Let's compair it to what the Corvette "STOCKER" Guys have had to go through. JB
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:14 PM   #3
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The rule is clear and the car follows it 100%

It uses the STOCK Spring location,

It uses the STOCK Shock mounts.

Only the Upper 2 have Heims and are adjustable..

Just like the rulez says....

Can the Vettes use the Stock Shock Mounts, and the Stock Spring Mounts for their setup ?

You want my business or NOT ?!?! ....lol......

I couldnt resist, I did get your PM, Im just in the hospital however with my son....so.....but cool. Ill touch base next week.

The front ? Whats different, ? I can drop on a set of stock struts....and back and forth...?

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Thanks Chad ! Now let's talk about the Rear End, and the Rear, as well as the Front suspension. Let's compair it to what the Corvette "STOCKER" Guys have had to go through. JB
watch it with the vettes, we've got two of em, lol. But yes putting a straight axle in a vette is a nightmare to meet what NHRA wants.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:55 PM   #5
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Exactly.

Yet none of you in the inner circle are very open to new people and new cars, are you?

Perhaps we should just cancel Class Racing for good.

It's your choice. What are you going to choose? Let Class Racing die with the old guard? Or try to revive it with new blood?

(oh - and I didn't suggest what you should or shouldn't like.)
I'm not "in the inner circle". I'm not at all opposed to new people or new cars. I don't think anyone else is either. I'm opposed to having ringers with bogus factors dumped into the class that no existing cars are even close to being able to run with.

I suppose you think everyone in the classes these new cars are in should just enjoy getting blown off the track by cars that belong in Super Stock instead of Stock. Somehow that seems to be a really high price for those people to pay to get a few new cars and new faces in the class. A guy who has been racing for years, working on his combination for all that time, investing a lot of money, should just bend over and take it, so new cars can be added?

Because what you're saying is everyone who has a car that runs A or AA that isn't a new Cobra Jet or Drag Pack car should just accept the fact that they don't even have a prayer, and they should be the ones to pay the price for having "new blood". Think about it.
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I suppose you think everyone in the classes these new cars are in should just enjoy getting blown off the track by cars that belong in Super Stock instead of Stock. Somehow that seems to be a really high price for those people to pay to get a few new cars and new faces in the class. A guy who has been racing for years, working on his combination for all that time, investing a lot of money, should just bend over and take it, so new cars can be added?
No - I'm saying the new cars should RACE 1320' and take the AHFS adjustment they get.

But people here talk out one side saying "it's unfair - they're too fast" then talk out the other side and say "don't 'disrespect' the other racers and run it out the back door." Again I say: WTF?

Which is it people? You can't complain the AHFS doesn't work AND tell people to lift after 1000' so the combo doesn't have to take the hit.

If I were the NHRA I'd automatically DQ any pair of racers who lifted after 1,000 foot unless they both could show the mechanical failure that forced their time to fall off in the last 320'. But as I'm sure someone will point out, I'm not the NHRA, so you can all keep cheating. In the end you're just cheating yourselves right out of the ability to race in the NHRA anyway.
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