Towing In North Carolina - Page 2

tim worner · 09-18-2009, 07:44 AM

Yesterday went to the DOT in Harrisburg,Pa with questions on this subject. The bottom line was are u commercial or not. If commercial and over 10,000 lbs you have to stop at weigh stations and have a DOT number and in compliance with insurance,log book, correct weight,ect. However under 26.001 lbs and not commercial ok. We need a way to show non-commercial. The fine in Pa. for not stopping at the weigh station is $300. So what to do. I for one am not going to stop untill I have too. I hope the bill passes in N.C> and is adopted by other states. In N.Y. over 17,000 some odd lbs you are supposed to have a HUT sticker on your vehicle{highway usage tax) I wonder if NHRA would help us with this????????????

63corvette · 09-17-2009, 09:26 AM

Kirk, I live in Texas and have recently went through the license procedure for my tow rig.
I have a diesel pusher motorhome with a 33,000 GVW.
When I asked the question of the license division when I bought the motorhome I was told I just needed a Class C. That was in 2001. After discussions on here and with other racers I found I needed the Class B.
After taking the written and driving test in July of 09 which included parallel parking a 40 ft motorhome, I now have a Class B Texas license which allows me to drive the motorhome legally pulling a trailer of less than 10,000 in weight.
The license dept told me I was not required to carry a log book as my license was not a CDL and CDL drivers were the only ones required to have the log books.
It seems you get a different story from everyone you talk to.
I have not been stopped yet and have been pulling the rig for 8 years and 85,000 miles now, but I do expect it at some point. I just hope I do not get one of those a hole officers.
My 2 Cents

Jeff Teuton · 09-17-2009, 10:30 AM

If your truck is titled in a company name, ABC Inc. or AABC RAcing, you are subject to DOT regulations that start at 10000 lbs. If the truck is in your name personally, the approach I would use is the 390 exemption that exempts a vehicle that normally would be a regulated vehicle for personal use. North Carolina has become the absolute worst in the nation. Steve Earwood of Rockingham fame is fight ing the battle as is the North Carolina Motorsports Assoication. On the NC website, they cite the 390 exemption, but the field people don't know about it. If you want to call me I can write the letter for you. My cell is 985-804-6161.

John Warehime · 09-17-2009, 11:06 AM

Get a lighter trailer, or stay out of NC.LOL, No really... I have a copy of the federal DOT laws that I carry. Federal law always trumps state law, however, any areas not clearly defined by the feds, are fair game for states. Anytime a NC state trooper gets you( a Yankee LOL!!) to over react, he can arrest your ***, and then you have a real moneymaker for the state (fines, legal fees, etc.). Remember your lawer is the cop's Brother-in-law.LOL. More revenue generating BS. See you at Atco.

Bernie Cunningham · 09-17-2009, 11:42 AM

Hey Jeff,
can you supply a link for that 390 exemption so we can print it out.
Thx.

BlueOval Ralph · 09-17-2009, 03:01 PM

Only on Federal Funded Highway Interstate or US Highways not on State Roads

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Warehime

Get a lighter trailer, or stay out of NC.LOL, No really... I have a copy of the federal DOT laws that I carry. Federal law always trumps state law, however, any areas not clearly defined by the feds, are fair game for states. Anytime a NC state trooper gets you( a Yankee LOL!!) to over react, he can arrest your ***, and then you have a real moneymaker for the state (fines, legal fees, etc.). Remember your lawer is the cop's Brother-in-law.LOL. More revenue generating BS. See you at Atco.

joe176 · 09-17-2009, 07:38 AM

The officer told Jeff you are racing for prize money....it falls under regulations for DOT laws. This happened at the bottom of the state of VA. Jeff said there was another weigh station further north. As the officer let him off on a verbal warning ( Jeff is a truck driver and knew some of the laws related) Jeff was on his own to not get pulled over again at the second weigh station a few hours away for not having a log book and DOT numbers.

09-18-2009, 07:44 AM	#1
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina Yesterday went to the DOT in Harrisburg,Pa with questions on this subject. The bottom line was are u commercial or not. If commercial and over 10,000 lbs you have to stop at weigh stations and have a DOT number and in compliance with insurance,log book, correct weight,ect. However under 26.001 lbs and not commercial ok. We need a way to show non-commercial. The fine in Pa. for not stopping at the weigh station is $300. So what to do. I for one am not going to stop untill I have too. I hope the bill passes in N.C> and is adopted by other states. In N.Y. over 17,000 some odd lbs you are supposed to have a HUT sticker on your vehicle{highway usage tax) I wonder if NHRA would help us with this???????????? __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

09-17-2009, 09:26 AM	#2
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 552 Likes: 128 Liked 359 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina Kirk, I live in Texas and have recently went through the license procedure for my tow rig. I have a diesel pusher motorhome with a 33,000 GVW. When I asked the question of the license division when I bought the motorhome I was told I just needed a Class C. That was in 2001. After discussions on here and with other racers I found I needed the Class B. After taking the written and driving test in July of 09 which included parallel parking a 40 ft motorhome, I now have a Class B Texas license which allows me to drive the motorhome legally pulling a trailer of less than 10,000 in weight. The license dept told me I was not required to carry a log book as my license was not a CDL and CDL drivers were the only ones required to have the log books. It seems you get a different story from everyone you talk to. I have not been stopped yet and have been pulling the rig for 8 years and 85,000 miles now, but I do expect it at some point. I just hope I do not get one of those a hole officers. My 2 Cents

09-17-2009, 10:30 AM	#3
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina If your truck is titled in a company name, ABC Inc. or AABC RAcing, you are subject to DOT regulations that start at 10000 lbs. If the truck is in your name personally, the approach I would use is the 390 exemption that exempts a vehicle that normally would be a regulated vehicle for personal use. North Carolina has become the absolute worst in the nation. Steve Earwood of Rockingham fame is fight ing the battle as is the North Carolina Motorsports Assoication. On the NC website, they cite the 390 exemption, but the field people don't know about it. If you want to call me I can write the letter for you. My cell is 985-804-6161. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

09-17-2009, 11:06 AM	#4
John Warehime Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 291 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Towing In North Carolina Get a lighter trailer, or stay out of NC.LOL, No really... I have a copy of the federal DOT laws that I carry. Federal law always trumps state law, however, any areas not clearly defined by the feds, are fair game for states. Anytime a NC state trooper gets you( a Yankee LOL!!) to over react, he can arrest your ***, and then you have a real moneymaker for the state (fines, legal fees, etc.). Remember your lawer is the cop's Brother-in-law.LOL. More revenue generating BS. See you at Atco.

09-17-2009, 11:42 AM	#5
Bernie Cunningham Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 560 Likes: 45 Liked 52 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina Hey Jeff, can you supply a link for that 390 exemption so we can print it out. Thx. __________________ Bernie Cunningham 7053 STK

09-17-2009, 07:38 AM	#7
joe176 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 601 Likes: 36 Liked 41 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina The officer told Jeff you are racing for prize money....it falls under regulations for DOT laws. This happened at the bottom of the state of VA. Jeff said there was another weigh station further north. As the officer let him off on a verbal warning ( Jeff is a truck driver and knew some of the laws related) Jeff was on his own to not get pulled over again at the second weigh station a few hours away for not having a log book and DOT numbers.

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