Lets talk NHRA Stk/SS with Lonnie Grim - Ideas - Comments

[Alan Nyhus]

I know I'll take some flack for this, but here goes.

I'd advocate moving Stock, Super Stock, Comp, etc. out of the National Events.

Instead, have every division hold a Sportsman National event. The Sportsman racers would be the show, not the filler. There could be a World Champion crowned based on points earned at these Sportsman National event, class eliminations could be run at every one of these Sportsman National events, no ridiculous quotas, etc, etc.

Way more on the 'Plus' side of the paper than the 'Negative'.

Race safe! -Al

[J.R. Haddad]

One thing that I would like to see is the "Movement" of quotas. We are told the quotas are for TV times & considerations, then NHRA has timed how
many cars they can run etc. and still be on time for their live broadcasts.
Case in point, the New England Nationals. Stock has been full for a while,
and a lot of people have done a lot of work to try to get in. Meanwhile, S/S
is at 31 (minus 29), Super Comp is at 42 (minus 18) Super Gas is at 15!!
(minus 45), Super Street is at 32, (minus 13), and Top Sportsman is at 10,
(minus 26) for a total of 131 Minus Entry's!! Now, can we not take 5 entry's
from each class, or 5x5 =25, and reallot those to Stock? I don't care what kind of accounting you use, more entry's means more money, more money is better than less money( I took a college course and they told me that).
You would now have more money, happier racers saying nicer things about their racing experience, who knows, with a happier group saying nicer things, it might inspire someone to build a car!! And to keep the costs down for our non-profit sanctioning body, I will manage it for free for one year, after that I get 10% of any additional funds I am able to bring in.

J.R.

[Larry Hill]

I’m not very much a numbers guy, but it looks like NHRA has lost a little bit of appeal to us lowly sportsman racers.

Ms. Louie what rights do we have as members with NHRA ? Vision is almost 20/20 when members know where they stand!

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus

I know I'll take some flack for this, but here goes.

I'd advocate moving Stock, Super Stock, Comp, etc. out of the National Events.

Instead, have every division hold a Sportsman National event. The Sportsman racers would be the show, not the filler. There could be a World Champion crowned based on points earned at these Sportsman National event, class eliminations could be run at every one of these Sportsman National events, no ridiculous quotas, etc, etc.

Way more on the 'Plus' side of the paper than the 'Negative'.

Race safe! -Al

Except the U.S. Nationals where there should be no quotas, no AHFS, a 128 car field including class winners. Last but not least, technical inspection and random tear downs.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

Except the U.S. Nationals where there should be no quotas, no AHFS, a 128 car field including class winners. Last but not least, technical inspection and random tear downs.

Frankie, Sounds like you fixed one race anyway.
One more thing. Put the All Stars back at the Columbus Sportsnationals

[Jeff Niceswanger]

Noticed a lot of commits on the contingency's. My town is loaded with round track racers as there are three local tracks. My next door neighbor runs modified and Zanesville sports some pretty well known teams. Donnie Moran and Bart Hartman are well known hitters that you guys might have seen on TV broadcast.. I've known Donnie since we were kids and he goes to our church. His son Devin is doing the driving now. On top of that we ended up with Gale Powley as an engine builder, who was Dale Earnhardts and Jeff Gordon's cylinder head and Intake manifold specialist from the Nascar World. Every time contingency's came up in conversations, I always found myself defending NHRA as round track contingency's are so much friendlier to the "Little Guys". And when I would mention the payouts were (a good bit) less than they were when I started racing in 1986 I would instantly get these "You can't be serious" looks. Here is a little article on the sportsman series payout (Not the purse, the contingency's) in the round track world. I'm not posting this expecting anything to change, but thought you would find it interesting.
And BTW, Didn't Len Imbargo make all these attempts previously ? He spent quite a bit of time in our pit area (super nice guy), and I'm remembering him going through all this several years ago.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mot...oad/ar-AAX4vHE

[Bobby Fazio]

Hell no. Nationals are one of the main reasons I got into class racing. We need that crowd to grow our exposure. We can't walk before crawling. We can't ditch the crowd before they've really found out what we are all about. Is there any crowd at the current Sportsnationals? I do agree with Class at each event and ditch these quotas but we need to work with NHRA on this.

Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus

I know I'll take some flack for this, but here goes.

I'd advocate moving Stock, Super Stock, Comp, etc. out of the National Events.

Instead, have every division hold a Sportsman National event. The Sportsman racers would be the show, not the filler. There could be a World Champion crowned based on points earned at these Sportsman National event, class eliminations could be run at every one of these Sportsman National events, no ridiculous quotas, etc, etc.

Way more on the 'Plus' side of the paper than the 'Negative'.

Race safe! -Al

[Don Kennedy]

My personal opinion is that if a racer has been racing for over 40 years or more we get a senior citizen discount on entry cost LOL

It’s been more about the Pro Show for a long time. We are the mayo filler between the bread like it or not. A lot less mayo now.
Hardly anyone in the stands Wed/Thurs unless they are die hard S/SS fans.
The FS class is getting more attention and so will the new class.
That pushes us backwards again.
Lonnie has his work cut out for him. I wish him luck and hopefully some good for us.

[my69396]

Make a National event for the sportsman. Make us the show. Have the Factory shootout cars. Stock and Super Stock needs some show time by ourselves. I think the Manufacturers would be for the exposure and the sponsors would get their day in the sun.