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Old 07-16-2008, 11:12 AM   #1
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Who has run quicker than 9.07 in GT/AA?
Looking at Joe's stats.........Bo's 9.19 at Norwalk looks mighty fast for the conditions.


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Looking at Joe's stats.........Bo's 9.19 at Norwalk looks mighty fast for the conditions.Greg
Ditto! That is an about an 8.90's run at sea level! Maybe somebody ought to loan Red/Shaun LeBlanc a fast C-4!
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Ditto! That is an about an 8.90's run at sea level! Maybe somebody ought to loan Red/Shaun LeBlanc a fast C-4!
Paging Blair Patrick.................
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Ditto! That is an about an 8.90's run at sea level! Maybe somebody ought to loan Red/Shaun LeBlanc a fast C-4!
Jeff Lawrence up in D-1 has a damn fast 85 Mustang with the 285/324 combo with a C-4 that could more than hold it's own. I haven't seen him on the sheets this year but in the past few years he has run low teens with his car.
I don't want to hear about corrected runs, in my opinion thats crap. Put the number on the board. I am sure the day I saw Andy run that 9.07 had it been a perfect pass he would have ran in the 8's.
Since sea level corrections were mentioned; I don't understand why the NHRA adjusts the indexes for altitude tracks, allow them to set mind blowing records, and then they don't get hp? I know this horse has been beat but I don't understand why combos aren't hit. I mean there were a couple of cars this weekend that went 1.40+ under and nothing will happen to those combos yet if someone would do this at a sea level track it's instant hp. What's the difference, the indexes are adjusted to make things the same so all other rules should apply. This is something I think should change but I know it never will.

Does anyone know why altitude tracks are exempt but can claim hero runs for records?
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A Update in Entries of GT/AA

A Battle at Indy in GT/AA is going to be interesting:-------- I will update list as Racers enter Indy

NHRA----------------------- HP ------------------------------------------- Weight

1.Gary Stinett 454 Chevy> 92 Camaro---430hp----------3610 lbs

2.Gary Richard 400 Chevy> 07 Cobalt---320hp------------2730 lbs

3. Robert Burgin 350 Chevy > 07 Cobalt---327hp----------2785 lbs

4.Stacy McCarty 428 Pontiac> 05 Grand Am--320--------2730 lbs (McCarty Engine) MPR Race cars

5.Joey Wilkes 426 ?? > 09 Challenger---????????????????????????????

6.Terry Pearson 350 Chevy> 05 Cavalier---327hp------2785 lbs

7.Sean Cour 350 Chevy> 08 Cobalt----327hp----------2785 lbs ( gulius engine)

8.Frank Grossi 454 Chevy> 05 Sunfire---320hp---------2730 lbs Phil Mandella Built car (Hetler Engine)

9.Tibor Kadar 400 Chevy> 08 Pontiac---320hp----------2730 lbs( Cameron Kallas New Car) Tibor "ICE" Kadar is the driver for Cameron (Hetler Engine)

10.Bo Kenney 346 LS1 Corp> 08 Colbalt---320hp----------2730 lbs (B & B Built car) (patterson engine) or the other combo is rated 305hp at a weight of 2670

11.Colin Wigle 429 Ford> 05 Mustang-------371hp---------3135 lbs

12.Michael Beachy 400 Chevy> 05 Cavalier---------320hp--------2730 lbs beachy Engine

13.Andy Fogle 350 Chevy > 05 Cavalier---------327hp--------2785Lbs

14.James Holland 400 Chevy> 05 Cavalier----------320HP------2730 Lbs

15.Roger Keeling 400Chevy> 08 Colbalt-------------320hp------2730 Lbs


Who will be the quickest is a good question???

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A Update in Entries of GT/AA

A Battle at Indy in GT/AA is going to be interesting:-------- I will update list as Racers enter Indy

NHRA- HP ------------------------------------------- Weight
1.Gary Stinett 454 Chevy> 92 Camaro---430hp----------3610 lbs

2.Gary Richard 400 Chevy> 07 Cobalt---320hp------------2730 lbs

3. Robert Burgin 350 Chevy > 07 Cobalt---327hp----------2785 lbs

4.Stacy McCarty 428 Pontiac> 05 Grand Am--320--------2730 lbs (McCarty Engine) MPR Race cars

5.Joey Wilkes 426 ?? > 09 Challenger---????????????????????????????

6.Terry Pearson 350 Chevy> 05 Cavalier---327hp------2785 lbs

7.Sean Cour 350 Chevy> 08 Cobalt----327hp----------2785 lbs ( gulius engine)

8.Frank Grossi 454 Chevy> 05 Sunfire---320hp---------2730 lbs Phil Mandella Built car (Hetler Engine)

9.Tibor Kadar 400 Chevy> 08 Pontiac---320hp----------2730 lbs( Cameron Kallas New Car) Tibor "ICE" Kadar is the driver for Cameron (Hetler Engine)

10.Bo Kenney 346 LS1 Corp> 08 Colbalt---320hp----------2730 lbs (B & B Built car) (patterson engine) or the other combo is rated 305hp at a weight of 2670

11.Colin Wigle 429 Ford> 05 Mustang-------371hp---------3135 lbs

12.Michael Beachy 400 Chevy 05 Cavalier---------320hp--------2730 lbs beachy Engine

13.Andy Fogle 350 Chevy 05 Cavalier---------327hp--------2785Lbs

14.Terry Pearson 350 Chevy 05 Cavalier----------327hp-------2785 Lbs Tilburg Engine

15.James Holland 400 Chevy 05 Cavalier----------320HP------2730 Lbs


Who will be the quickest is a good question???

Terry's running two cars?
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Jeff Lawrence up in D-1 has a damn fast 85 Mustang with the 285/324 combo with a C-4 that could more than hold it's own. I haven't seen him on the sheets this year but in the past few years he has run low teens with his car.
I don't want to hear about corrected runs, in my opinion thats crap. Put the number on the board. I am sure the day I saw Andy run that 9.07 had it been a perfect pass he would have ran in the 8's.
Since sea level corrections were mentioned; I don't understand why the NHRA adjusts the indexes for altitude tracks, allow them to set mind blowing records, and then they don't get hp? I know this horse has been beat but I don't understand why combos aren't hit. I mean there were a couple of cars this weekend that went 1.40+ under and nothing will happen to those combos yet if someone would do this at a sea level track it's instant hp. What's the difference, the indexes are adjusted to make things the same so all other rules should apply. This is something I think should change but I know it never will.

Does anyone know why altitude tracks are exempt but can claim hero runs for records?
Because the altitude adjustment formula that NHRA uses is bad. Just ask Lou Ficco, he got hit .10 permanent for the win at Denver with a .77 under run. No comp car is that fast in the summer. I believe all runs should take the HP hit but NHRA needs to set the altitude at say 1800 feet not sea level.JMO

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Old 07-16-2008, 07:19 PM   #8
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Any way you want to look at it, 9.19 run at well over 3000 feet corrected is a hell-uv-a-run! If anyone wants to try and knock off Andy Fogle, they are gonna have their work cut out for them. Damn is this gonna be cool!

The moderately slow air conditions (2500 feet in the AM to around 3500 feet in the PM) allow the fast cars to hang it out making it way cooler.

"We don't need no stinking corrections"
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:12 PM   #9
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Indy Super Stock is a full 180 car field as of 7/16/08.
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:11 AM   #10
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Great 15 car field for GTAA. I also cut and pasted the possible "cross overs" with a little weight out. If not GTBA looks way too cool also. I guess too maybe a SS/EA - SS/FA car?

GT/AA Gary Stinnett Emporia KS '92 Camaro Chev 454
GT/AA Michael Beachy Kokomo IN '05 Cav Chev 400
GT/AA Gary Richard Bay Shore NY '07 Colbalt Chev 400
GT/AA Bo Kenney Manassas VA '08 Cobalt Pont 346
GT/AA James Holland Forest City NC '05 Cavalier Chev 400
GT/AA Robert Burgin Cuthbert GA '07 Cobalt Chev 350
GT/AA Andy Fogle Norway SC '05 Cavalier Chev 350
GT/AA Colin Wigle Amherstburg ON '05 Mustang Ford 429
GT/AA Stacy Mc Carty Carmel IN '05 Grand AM Pont 428
GT/AA Joey Wilkes Zanesville OH '09 Challenger Chry 426
GT/AA Roger Keeling Scott Depot WV '08 Cobalt Chev 400
GT/AA Terry Pearson Spanish Fort AL '05 Cavalier Chev 350
GT/AA Sean Cour Brush Prair WA '08 Colbalt Chev 350 JIM
GT/AA Frank Grossi Upland CA '05 Sunfire GM 454
GT/AA Tibor Kadar Peoria AZ '08 Pontiac Chev 400


GT/BA Jerry Emmons-Pasadena TX05 Chevrolet Chev 350
GT/BA Irvin Johns Charlestown IN '08 Cobalt Chev 350
GT/BA Tom Boucher Byfield MA '97 Pontiac Chev 454
GT/BA Bill Marshall Coram NY '87 Camaro Chev 454
GT/BA Frank Maiolo White Plains NY '04 2000 Chev 350
GT/BA Wally Clark Niagara Falls ON '03 Pontiac Chev 350
GT/BA Jerry Silveus Van Buren OH '05 Cavalier Chev 350
GT/BA Paul Hellenberg Dry Ridge KY '04 Cavalier Chev 350
GT/BA Bill Foder Canton MI '95 Beretta Pont 400
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