IHRA FWD Weight Breaks

Billy Nees · 07-15-2008, 06:06 PM

Hi Mark, incase you've forgotten, 1985 Pontiac Sunbird Turbo. Original engine, trans, converter AND final drive ratio went 14.03 on 14.95 B/FS index in 1985. I haven't raced the car since. The only things that I changed were a fresh head gasket, a fresh turbo (the right one) and 20 X 8 M/Ts. In fact, it DID win class at Indy on a solo run.

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2008, 07:14 PM

Billy, are you sure you are talking about that happening in 1985? Jim

Ken Haase · 07-15-2008, 07:35 PM

Daran, I had an '81 diesel Toro converted to a gas 350 and if I remember correctly, there's so little room to the rear of the engine bay, the headers would have to look like some old 'Can-Am' stuff. I suppose you could do fenderwell type, or maybe through the hood like a 'puller'. Smiley face here.

Billy, the new car prep guy at the dealership I worked at in the early '80's came back from checking out one of those Sunbirds and said to me "man, you gotta take this thing for a drive, it's FAST!'. I said, "yeah, right." "I'm serious man, it'll impress ya". I grabbed the keys and tossed the dealer plate up on the dash. (this was a stick car) Got it rolling, shifted into second gear and 'up on the turbo' and nailed it. I hope nobody was watching as I ducked that license plate as it went whistling by! Thing almost took my head off on it's way to the rear package tray! Oh yeah, I WAS impressed that a 1.8L could pull that hard. Fun stuff.

Billy Nees · 07-15-2008, 07:37 PM

Oops, that would have been 2005!

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2008, 08:13 PM

OK, That's better. I remember when that happened and I know I can't remember all the way back to 1985! Jim

Ed Fernandez · 07-15-2008, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Oops, that would have been 2005!

You're losing it old man.See ya at the Toyo's.

Ed

LNorton · 07-15-2008, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

You're losing it old man.See ya at the Toyo's.

Ed

They will forever be the Keystones.

Michael Beard · 07-15-2008, 10:18 PM

I think there's a couple other little killer combos out there that I may keep under my hat for a little bit... Billy, do you still have the car I borrowed to drive back and forth between PA and Ohio? I think we figured that one to have a great deal of potential. I know another combo that will run the index completely untouched, which I think would have a huge amount of potential just by dropping the exhaust and putting a set of 20" M/T's on it...

Dennis P Chapman · 07-15-2008, 10:58 PM

Come on Mike give us a hint.

Mike Carr · 07-16-2008, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Hi Mark, incase you've forgotten, 1985 Pontiac Sunbird Turbo. Original engine, trans, converter AND final drive ratio went 14.03 on 14.95 B/FS index in 1985. I haven't raced the car since. The only things that I changed were a fresh head gasket, a fresh turbo (the right one) and 20 X 8 M/Ts. In fact, it DID win class at Indy on a solo run.

Hi Billy. Actually it was 2004 (50th) Indy. ET was 14.22, for those keeping score at home. It did run 14.11 on the brakes at the Dutch that year. How are things up on the "ranch"?

07-15-2008, 06:06 PM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,495 Likes: 3,600 Liked 7,742 Times in 1,740 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Hi Mark, incase you've forgotten, 1985 Pontiac Sunbird Turbo. Original engine, trans, converter AND final drive ratio went 14.03 on 14.95 B/FS index in 1985. I haven't raced the car since. The only things that I changed were a fresh head gasket, a fresh turbo (the right one) and 20 X 8 M/Ts. In fact, it DID win class at Indy on a solo run. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

07-15-2008, 07:14 PM	#2
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Billy, are you sure you are talking about that happening in 1985? Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-15-2008, 07:35 PM	#3
Ken Haase Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 233 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Daran, I had an '81 diesel Toro converted to a gas 350 and if I remember correctly, there's so little room to the rear of the engine bay, the headers would have to look like some old 'Can-Am' stuff. I suppose you could do fenderwell type, or maybe through the hood like a 'puller'. Smiley face here. Billy, the new car prep guy at the dealership I worked at in the early '80's came back from checking out one of those Sunbirds and said to me "man, you gotta take this thing for a drive, it's FAST!'. I said, "yeah, right." "I'm serious man, it'll impress ya". I grabbed the keys and tossed the dealer plate up on the dash. (this was a stick car) Got it rolling, shifted into second gear and 'up on the turbo' and nailed it. I hope nobody was watching as I ducked that license plate as it went whistling by! Thing almost took my head off on it's way to the rear package tray! Oh yeah, I WAS impressed that a 1.8L could pull that hard. Fun stuff.

07-15-2008, 07:37 PM	#4
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,495 Likes: 3,600 Liked 7,742 Times in 1,740 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Oops, that would have been 2005! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

07-15-2008, 08:13 PM	#5
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks OK, That's better. I remember when that happened and I know I can't remember all the way back to 1985! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-15-2008, 10:18 PM	#8
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks I think there's a couple other little killer combos out there that I may keep under my hat for a little bit... Billy, do you still have the car I borrowed to drive back and forth between PA and Ohio? I think we figured that one to have a great deal of potential. I know another combo that will run the index completely untouched, which I think would have a huge amount of potential just by dropping the exhaust and putting a set of 20" M/T's on it... __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

07-15-2008, 10:58 PM	#9
Dennis P Chapman VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toms River NJ Posts: 1,594 Likes: 417 Liked 53 Times in 25 Posts	Re: IHRA FWD Weight Breaks Come on Mike give us a hint. __________________ Dennis P Chapman 1904 STK NHRA National Record Holder Car Owner.

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