Toyota Supra in Stock Eliminator (Poll)

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by BRETV

Win class at Indy and make for damn sure it passes teardown. LOL




Bret Velde
2003 I/SA
Coming soon

Hopefully by Indy , this combination is actually in the Guide, so that Tech have some casting numbers and specifications to compare against in the barn.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by GUMP

What do I do if I "LOSE" the poll?

Darren...remember our chat with Robin in Facebook?

[RKelliher]

first Dawson ,were you doing a poll or a english lesson? Also, the rule on rear ends 2008 an later can use a 9" ford style rearend but does state no aluminum center unless from factory installed. and because bmw had a gm trans.does not apply to a supra, that is a strectch. It is a toyota not a bmw even with bmw engine.

[J.R. Haddad]

So the current hang up appears to be the transmission. Lets examine that.
There seems to be a want for the stock type of transmission case. So we
need a genuine Toyota Trans case. It can be done, no problem. We will
examine all the cases Toyota has produced for the last 20 years or so,
and settle on a few that appear to have approximately the same capacity
dimensions as a Metric 200, or a Turbo 350. The trans can then be sent
to any number of places, Pro Trans, Joel's, Coan, ATI, A-1, to have all of
todays aluminum drums, lightened gears, hardened shafts, etc. fitted to
the Toyota case. End result, a few thousand diehard, possibly anal, Stock
Racers( I include myself in that group) get to say, We showed him, he has
to run that Toyota trans. All we have done is put up one more barrier for
someone with the insight, foresight and intestinal fortitude to create this excellent idea, and instead of a transmission costing 10,000.00, it will be 20,000.00, but we will feel better. We are running our manufacturers cases, but we've got Chrysler, Ford, and Subaru derivative parts in them. But its in a stock appearing case. Who really cares? The stick cars run trans from 6 or 7 manufacturers, they don't resemble Muncies, Borg-Warners, Top-Loaders, or Chrysler crash boxes. The stick guys don't care, why do we?

J.R.

[mike britt]

I'm a long time Toyota guy so the reason I laugh at it is because it is not a Toyota. I think it would have been cool to get a v-8 Toyota or Lexus, and there are a lot of them, in the guide. A lot of people can relate to them and there's a lot of them out there more affordable than a supra.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad

So the current hang up appears to be the transmission. Lets examine that.
There seems to be a want for the stock type of transmission case. So we
need a genuine Toyota Trans case. It can be done, no problem. We will
examine all the cases Toyota has produced for the last 20 years or so,
and settle on a few that appear to have approximately the same capacity
dimensions as a Metric 200, or a Turbo 350. The trans can then be sent
to any number of places, Pro Trans, Joel's, Coan, ATI, A-1, to have all of
todays aluminum drums, lightened gears, hardened shafts, etc. fitted to
the Toyota case. End result, a few thousand diehard, possibly anal, Stock
Racers( I include myself in that group) get to say, We showed him, he has
to run that Toyota trans. All we have done is put up one more barrier for
someone with the insight, foresight and intestinal fortitude to create this excellent idea, and instead of a transmission costing 10,000.00, it will be 20,000.00, but we will feel better. We are running our manufacturers cases, but we've got Chrysler, Ford, and Subaru derivative parts in them. But its in a stock appearing case. Who really cares? The stick cars run trans from 6 or 7 manufacturers, they don't resemble Muncies, Borg-Warners, Top-Loaders, or Chrysler crash boxes. The stick guys don't care, why do we?

J.R.

Since this Toyota/BMW/Ford/GM hybrid is supposed to be a Stock Eliminator car, I will not concern myself with the manual transmissions that Super Stock cars are allowed to run, but I can say that my Jericos very closely resembled a production Ford Toploader 4 speed, and my current G Force G101A 4 speed closely resembles a Borg Warner 4 speed, in both appearance, design, and function. The main benefit is the Jerico and G Force transmissions are stronger than the production transmissions, and like the automatics, are available with ratios more suitable for drag racing. Not to mention the last year that Ford installed a Toploader 4 speed in a production car was 1973, not 100 % positive, but I doubt that GM installed Muncies much later than that, same with MoPars A833, or the BW T10, which was only installed in some AMC cars, after Ford, GM, and Chrysler deemed the T10 too weak for their performance applications, so they all chose to invest in building their own 4 speed manual transmissions in the mid 60s.

[JP1738]

Originally Posted by RKelliher

first Dawson ,were you doing a poll or a english lesson?

This may come as a surprise, but my mother was an English teacher for many years and now a librarian. I get it honest.

[james schaechter]

If people got as snarky about spelling and grammar in person as they do on their keyboards, most of us would be in jail or ready med lol.

[JP1738]

Originally Posted by GUMP

What do I do if I "LOSE" the poll?

Scorched Earth at Indy then. If they don't like it, they can lump it.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by JP1738

It's not a typo, I don't think you understand the phrase.

"Net" is another word for sum. In this instance, a Net Positive or Net good means that the sum of all of the parts or implications of this subject matter adds up to be a good thing. Maybe you don't like that it has a Ford rear-end, but that is outweighed by adding a new manufacturer to the guide and the potentiality of including new, younger racers to STK.

So:
net good=you are for it
net bad=you are against it

Just curious how many "younger racers" have the financial resources to be racing a a new Supra, Cobra Jet Mustang, COPO Camaro, or Drag Pak Challenger? The vast majority of late model factory race cars that I have seen, are owned by people that have gray (if any!) hair,