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[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by GUMP

Again, not one rule was changed to allow the Supra. In fact this statement is blatantly false. There's how YOU think the rules are written and what's actually in the rulebook.

I'm almost finished with a 2024 Camaro. It has a 9" rear and a transmission that has zero OEM parts (including the case). It was built from a CRC so it never had a VIN. It is also 100% legal.

History shows that I was against almost every "enhancement" over the years. All it does is drive up the cost and add complexity to the cars. But, I don't make the rules, I just do my best to roll with them.

You claim that "Not one rule was changed to allow the Supra", how about the rule that for over 1/2 century , only cars were allowed in Stock that were included in the oficial NHRA Classification Guide'? Or did NHRA decide to give you a fresh sheet or paper to create a Toyota that is NOT in the guide?

[4543]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

You claim that "Not one rule was changed to allow the Supra", how about the rule that for over 1/2 century , only cars were allowed in Stock that were included in the oficial NHRA Classification Guide'? Or did NHRA decide to give you a fresh sheet or paper to create a Toyota that is NOT in the guide?

There has always been a procedure to have something added to the guide

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by 4543

There has always been a procedure to have something added to the guide

If something is able to be added to the guide, should such an addition not be able to be seen in that guide by anybody that wants to see any such additions ? Or is it to only be readable to a top secret select few?

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

If something is able to be added to the guide, should such an addition not be able to be seen in that guide by anybody that wants to see any such additions ? Or is it to only be readable to a top secret select few?

Once everything is approved by the NHRA it will be added to the guide. Then the whole world can see it. Which is exactly how it has always been.

I showed this car at the High Performance Expo in Charlotte because they wanted something new and exciting to showcase. Otherwise, it would have shown up at the next NHRA race local to me after it hit the guide.

[jmcarter]

Wife and I were doing the RV travel deal in the Carolinas last week and was sorely tempted to swing by Shadyside?GO GUMP GO (like the poll).

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by GUMP

Once everything is approved by the NHRA it will be added to the guide. Then the whole world can see it. Which is exactly how it has always been.

I showed this car at the High Performance Expo in Charlotte because they wanted something new and exciting to showcase. Otherwise, it would have shown up at the next NHRA race local to me after it hit the guide.

Must be nice to have enough pull to be able to build a car BEFORE that car is in the NHRA Classification Guide, and thus should have no specs, or "approved replacement" parts. When I build MY Stocker, I had to find a car and combination that was actually in the guide, before I even knew what casting numbers, specifications, HP ratings , accepted shipping weight, and so many other bit of information , which is exactly how it has always been until now.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Must be nice to have enough pull to be able to build a car BEFORE that car is in the NHRA Classification Guide, and thus should have no specs, or "approved replacement" parts. When I build MY Stocker, I had to find a car and combination that was actually in the guide, before I even knew what casting numbers, specifications, HP ratings , accepted shipping weight, and so many other bit of information , which is exactly how it has always been until now.

Do you know the history of the 1968 Cobra Jet?

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by GUMP

Do you know the history of the 1968 Cobra Jet?

Yes, very familiar. I have owned and raced 5 several factory 428 Cobra Jet Mustangs and Fairlane Cobras, of which over 20,000 428 Cobra Jet powered cars were produced, over 3 years , and anybody of the street could walk into any Ford or Mercury dealership, and order one. And by the way, the 428 Cobra Jet engine has had it`s Factory Horsepower "factored" upwards, probably by more than virtually any other REAL (non fabricated "paper" combination). Is THAT the 428 Cobra Jet that you are referring to?
Of course, Ford was not the "Official Car of the NHRA", so it wasn`t afforded some of the liberties that some of the later "official" cars have, like being allowed to use engines, and other components that were not available in certain years of such vehicles,

[BRETV]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Must be nice to have enough pull to be able to build a car BEFORE that car is in the NHRA Classification Guide, and thus should have no specs, or "approved replacement" parts. When I build MY Stocker, I had to find a car and combination that was actually in the guide, before I even knew what casting numbers, specifications, HP ratings , accepted shipping weight, and so many other bit of information , which is exactly how it has always been until now.

Rory, You are wrong, there were no 2003 specs for any Ford in the guide and I wanted to run a 2003 Cobra. So I contacted NHRA and ask them what I needed to do, They told me I had to get someone from Ford to summit all paperwork and specs to them. I contacted Jesse Kershaw and he agreed to send the info. I was building the car per Ford's specs while the process was taking place. Took almost 2 years to finally get it all done. The specs hit the guide and the car was finished around the same time. My uncle went thru the same process back in 1997 to get the 1995 Cobra R in the guides. So as far back as 97, the process has been the same.





Bret Velde
2003 I/SA
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[Greg Gay]

My memory of the few turbo cars that have been tried in Stock and S/S is that they are usually very fast in their class, but not very consistent. So, a car like this will probably wreak havoc in its class at Indy, but generally not go very far in eliminations.