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Old 04-03-2025, 01:51 PM   #1
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Another proposal to take stock farther from stock???
How about the 9x30 slicks that were first allowed in 1975, gee, that is 50 years ago. Should that be updated as well? How about 18x36 or thereabouts?
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I honestly do not care any way.

But I would truly like to see a sound argument against, other than saying it is not the way stock should be or has been over the years.

If that was the case, why were two steps allowed in the early 2000s? If you cannot footbrake your car, you should not be in stock.

The same logic from this thread could be applied to the two step argument but I do not hear anyone out hear beating the drum for disallowing two steps.
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Old 04-03-2025, 02:57 PM   #3
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I would be ok with the two steps getting taken away as well, at least for the Auto cars. I am fine with stick cars having a 2 step. Have the rules similar to sportsman class in that regard.

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I honestly do not care any way.

But I would truly like to see a sound argument against, other than saying it is not the way stock should be or has been over the years.

If that was the case, why were two steps allowed in the early 2000s? If you cannot footbrake your car, you should not be in stock.

The same logic from this thread could be applied to the two step argument but I do not hear anyone out hear beating the drum for disallowing two steps.
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Old 04-03-2025, 03:12 PM   #4
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I would be ok with the two steps getting taken away as well, at least for the Auto cars. I am fine with stick cars having a 2 step. Have the rules similar to sportsman class in that regard.
Agreed, take the 2 steps from autos as well!

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Old 04-04-2025, 10:53 AM   #5
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Disappointed with some of my fellow racers . So if YOU do not use a 2 step , then NO ONE needs to use one ?? C?mon guys, you all are better than that ….

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Old 04-04-2025, 12:02 PM   #6
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Disappointed with some of my fellow racers . So if YOU do not use a 2 step , then NO ONE needs to use one ?? C?mon guys, you all are better than that ?.
And you just made the point I was trying to prove.

If you choose to not use an air/e-shifter, does not mean that NO ONE should be able to use one?

The new air shifter rule does not require anyone to use one.
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Old 04-04-2025, 05:07 PM   #7
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And you just made the point I was trying to prove.

If you choose to not use an air/e-shifter, does not mean that NO ONE should be able to use one?

The new air shifter rule does not require anyone to use one.
There is already a lack of new blood coming into the sport. The costs will continue to rise from astronomical, to unobtainium.

Austin where does it stop? I would like fuel injection, four-link rear, CNC ported heads, air shifter, turbo's, blowers, Comp styled pistons, and any other addition that another competitor may have. I'm sure there are the stick shift guys that would like to use an air shifted clutchless transmissions (contrary to another post ProMod's are using automated air shifters, I do not know about any of the other classes).

PS, I personally know of three racers that are using an E-shift in 60's and 70's cars that had non-electronic transmissions. easy to find in a non-invasive inspection.

The secondary question will be...When stock and superstock are combined will NHRA pay out for the second car a driver who routinely enters the two classes? or...will double entrees be allowed. Then in an effort to level the playing field, will other drivers be allowed to double enter a single car, or will there be buybacks.

Once again Austin...where will this DEI program to level the playing field stop?
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Old 04-03-2025, 03:55 PM   #8
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I honestly do not care any way.

But I would truly like to see a sound argument against, other than saying it is not the way stock should be or has been over the years.

If that was the case, why were two steps allowed in the early 2000s? If you cannot footbrake your car, you should not be in stock.

The same logic from this thread could be applied to the two step argument but I do not hear anyone out hear beating the drum for disallowing two steps.
My logic is.... Pro Stock, Pro Mod TAD, TAFC all shift as result of driver function all performance based, non electronic classes, MY REASONING and PROPOSAL is why should Stock,Super Stock and Competition Eliminator be ANY different than the other perfomance based,non electronic classes..

.90 classes, Top Sportsman ,Top Dragster and Super Pro are electronic, bracket based classes let them use air/electric/co2 automated shifters
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Old 04-03-2025, 04:01 PM   #9
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I'm with you guys on 2-steps, no idea why autos have them. I do not use one and I'm honestly not sure why I would need one.
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I'm with you guys on 2-steps, no idea why autos have them. I do not use one and I'm honestly not sure why I would need one.
I am sure you would agree that to cut consistent reactions times while foot braking you need to have steady starting line rpms. With dual 750 carbs and vacuum secondaries, my car is not easy to hold a steady rpm while staging. The 2 step lets me leave consistently at the desired rpm. You may not need one, but other combinations do.

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