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Old 03-02-2025, 11:19 PM   #1
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Reducing the indexes would be fine with me if they took 40hp off of the Max wedges like they did the 409s and 421s. These cars are pushing a lot more air than the Camaros, Novas and newer cars and the faster the A and B cars get the more of a disadvantage it is on bigger cars.
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Old 03-02-2025, 11:52 PM   #2
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Maybe the easy fix is let?s go back to the original HP ratings on all combos. Then lower index 3 tenths and do away with the AFHS. Everyone will be happy and nobody will have a reason to cry. The automatic system was to create parity. It seems most don?t want that. So let?s do away with all previous corrections.
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Old 03-03-2025, 12:39 AM   #3
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Maybe the easy fix is let?s go back to the original HP ratings on all combos. Then lower index 3 tenths and do away with the AFHS. Everyone will be happy and nobody will have a reason to cry. The automatic system was to create parity. It seems most don?t want that. So let?s do away with all previous corrections.
That would make a lot of 72 and up Mopar 340-360- and 400 racers very happy as well as countless 72 and up GMs and Fords, it would be a mess far beyond words and a lot of the 60s cars would be dead. In a class that's mostly old guys including myself at 70 I don't see us starting all over again with a new car.
Just adding, that might be fun if we all had to run stock blocks, rockers and whatever transmission came with the car originally.

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Old 03-03-2025, 01:29 AM   #4
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Still waiting for the results of the NHRA teardown and verification of the run?
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Sam, I don't want you to spend a lot of time waiting for the results of the
teardown. We have all been waiting for years.

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Old 03-03-2025, 09:31 AM   #6
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I like the delicate dance that has to be done in the AHFS to go fast, win Class and do not offend. Joe and Hal are masters of the game.

On the reduction side of the AHFS, NHRA does not follow the rules as written at least that has been my experience sometimes.
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I like the delicate dance that has to be done in the AHFS to go fast, win Class and do not offend. Joe and Hal are masters of the game.

On the reduction side of the AHFS, NHRA does not follow the rules as written at least that has been my experience sometimes.
I agree Mr Larry only problem is when you have people with your combo that's not quite so diligent as you are sir it can be a problem if you get my drift. That's what ruined my 350 flat top combo.
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Old 03-03-2025, 10:12 AM   #8
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We, us and some more folks were trying to get power off a combination and had everything in place until the last race, it was a qualified race. He qualified and raised the average enough to not qualify for a reduction. He came to race and did with no hard feelings. I think he went several rounds at that race and I was a DNQ cause mine would not run fast enough to get in. Sometimes it just does not work out.

After a race that we went fast I got 29 hp in a 22 lbs class on Tuesday. If you do the math it will scare you.
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I like the delicate dance that has to be done in the AHFS to go fast, win Class and do not offend. Joe and Hal are masters of the game.

On the reduction side of the AHFS, NHRA does not follow the rules as written at least that has been my experience sometimes.

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So your saying you enjoy running your car under the AHFS? So running you car based off a Average of everyone else's performance is fun? What happens when its 5th round and by
Into the final and your Average is high and your heads up. Maybe im wrong and everyone enjoys this. But they already have a couple classes for this not sure why they need 2 more.Would this type of racing have drawn you into the class when you first started? You have a very fast car i would think you would want to show the reward of your hard work and money spent more often.
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I understand there are racers unhappy with the AHFS. However, no one really proposes a solution other than just "get rid of it." I really don't think that is the answer. Does that mean we just leave every single combination at the current horsepower rating and let them run however fast they want without the threat of "ruining" the combo? Possibly go back to the days before the AHFS, where a combo got a fixed number, say 5hp, at NHRA's discretion, no matter if the car was in a 25lb class or a 5lb class? Lowering the indexes is generally an unpopular idea. I know it would probably never happen, but I think that cars making very fast runs, especially when it is fast enough for an instant hp hit, need to be torn down to verify that the car that is about to "ruin" the combo is, at the very least, legal.
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