How important is qualifying???????????????

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Maybe someone running one of these can tell us just how it would qualify as delivered, without all of that extra work done.


Stan

Gump? I?m sure he knows.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by JP1738

You know you can bracket race literally anything, right? I once bracket raced my mom's Ford Freestyle
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I'm not talking about your nor your mom's daily driver, they ain't showing up to compete at BIG $ bracket races like the flings and if one does show up they ain't winning.

I'm talking about dedicated, purpose built bracket cars, top bulb race cars and they are not street legal. So yes about $40k on the low end and $175 on the high end. Yea you can do it cheaper, just like you can race a "dime rocket" in stock but who really wants to and those cars aren't winning races much less championships in either venue today.

[Mike Taylor 3601]

How important is qualifying? Is a good question, with lots of answers, many have no right or wrong answers. If you like to be fast, then #1 is your spot and always give you the highest possibility of a bye run first round..
full field qualifying definitely is important or you don't race, so that probably be when it is most important..
Playing the ladder for possible bye or avoiding someone can help, but is a crapshoot that you can get one of the spots you need, no harm in trying.
I understand all these strategies, for the most part.
Alot of my strategy is really simple..... keep it simple, don't overthink it.....drive the best I can....none of it matters if you don't have some luck...then some days or years I just can't drive...

[j gardiner]

There might be a lot of bracket racing going on, but stock and especially super stock are not bracket cars. If my stocker was a bracket car only, there would be a lot of things I would be changing on it.

[1320racer]

But it IS bracket racing

[j gardiner]

But it IS bracket racing
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Unless you have a heads-up. These are not big motor, big tired cars on alcohol with a power glide trans. They are heavy with loose converters with too small of a tire,not enough carb,nasty little camshafts. I race both and have won in both. Both of them are challenging, but they are different.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by j gardiner

But it IS bracket racing
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Unless you have a heads-up. .

a heads up that the vast majority of stock racers look to avoid, playing the ladder, hoping to avoid a heads up race in the 1st round, early rounds, counting on another class racer ending the fast guy?s day in a handicapped start with shoe polish on his window. Again it IS bracket racing and while I’m stating the TRUTH again, I’ll continue by also stating many of the fast guys are just fast guys that don’t have the skills at either end of the track so they are an easy win for drivers that do have the skills.

[J.R. Haddad]

As Stock/SuperStock Racers, we have some confessing to do. We are not
Semi- Professional Sportsman Racers. Regardless of investment, Engine,
Transmission, or Differential R & D research we do, no, we don't cut it.
Thinking we have made life long friends through our racing, Sorry, not
allowed, we are supposed to have enough friends, no new friends allowed,
NO FRIENDS FOR YOU, TWO YEARS, As a famous Food **** once
said. We are not having fun, we should be ashamed we are in these
Classes. DO NOT pretend we having qualifying, Heads UP Races, that some peoples goals are having a fast car, some like consistent cars, others
like their cars to be show quality. These preferences will know longer be
allowed, as outlined in the new 2025 Rule Book- Racing **** Rulebook,
to be published soon. Anybody appearing to be doing R&D, going far under their index, Winning Class, or generally having fun, will be suspended for up to 2 Years, and fines depending on level of enjoyment you appear to be having. No Appeals allowed, as you are not as smart as publisher of new rules, so why waste time in a battle of brains, when we are just not worthy.

J.R.

[1320racer]

So what part of the TRUTH and the FACTS didn’t you like that fueled your unhinged rant about your fellow stock/super stock racers?

[JP1738]

Originally Posted by j gardiner

But it IS bracket racing
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Unless you have a heads-up. These are not big motor, big tired cars on alcohol with a power glide trans. They are heavy with loose converters with too small of a tire,not enough carb,nasty little camshafts. I race both and have won in both. Both of them are challenging, but they are different.

This is a great point that gets overlooked a lot on here. Although STK/SS is, for the most part, a shoe-polish race once eliminations begin, these cars are not easy to drive or predict. Tuning a q-jet, footbraking with no two-step, and hand shifting a three speed is not the most efficient way to bracket race at all. But those are the rules for the class (at least my combo, anyway) and make it challenging in its own unique way.