ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers

Don Himes · 05-30-2008, 04:15 PM

Maybe 1664SS/JA hit the nail right on the head with what's wrong with stock eliminator.......$6500 for heads..............What in the hell can you do to "stock" heads for $6500? We need another eliminator! All of the cheatin' bastards in it, then leave stock for the rest of us...........Wow, I've got to get back to the track soon........my heads gonna explode!

Ed Fernandez · 05-30-2008, 04:34 PM

In the end it's the guys who bent the rules too far AND NHRA for not having the balls to call them on it.
So we have some of our fellow racers who caused this mess.Another fun day in NHRA drag racing.

Ed F.

seb · 05-30-2008, 05:47 PM

All you guys have a point or are correct in some things you are saying. I have
been racing NHRA since 1973 (I think) and have heard the same old things
being said and have said some of them myself since I started racing NHRA.
The point being that we are never going to agree on all the things that are or
are not changed. So, lets race or stay at home and bracket race but always
be civil to each other no matter what our positions because it will never change.
Some will be for changes others will be for the status quo.
Personally, I'm just glad to be able to go occasionally and enjoy getting to see
old friends and make a few passes down the track.

S.E.Buchanan
4708 Stock
4777 Super/Stock

Alan Roehrich · 05-30-2008, 06:08 PM

If you pay $6500 for a set of Stock heads, I hope they pick you up at least 5 tenths. We bought a BRAND NEW set of heads last Fall, NEW castings and ALL new parts, it was well under $4000, and included gaskets and spark plugs even.

And NHRA is NOT going back to the old rules because they have no desire to spend time and money to enforce them. So we'll have to live with what we have. As far as that subject goes, we can only lobby against additional changes of that nature.

Alan Roehrich · 05-30-2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1664SSJA

Hang on a second here...... indexes were being talked about....... it was said that people should spend the money to race class or get out...

I was talking 6500 for SUPER STOCK heads/intake....... if I wanted to go from 6-7 under to 1 or more under... and *I* couldn't afford it.......

Wasn't necessarily talking about you. Was actually addressing several points others made.

John Duzac · 05-30-2008, 08:42 PM

I agree with S.E. Buchanan: Just being able to go to the races and see old friends and make a few passes. And along the way, it would be nice to go a few rounds. Looking forward to the Memphis points meet...

SS Engine Guy · 05-30-2008, 10:59 PM

Several have mentioned going back to real racing and a performance eliminator. Well that would be heads up off the index or record. Sounds fine to me! Lower the index? To hell with the index. As Mr. Beard said its all realative. Until you correctly factor the combinations you won't change a thing. Lower the index 1 second and all you will have is a select bunch of underfactored cars patting each other on the back trying to make themselves feel good because they couldn't make middle of the field in todays events if factors were fairly considered and applied where necessary.

05-30-2008, 04:15 PM	#1
Don Himes Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Port Charlotte, Fla. Posts: 160 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Maybe 1664SS/JA hit the nail right on the head with what's wrong with stock eliminator.......$6500 for heads..............What in the hell can you do to "stock" heads for $6500? We need another eliminator! All of the cheatin' bastards in it, then leave stock for the rest of us...........Wow, I've got to get back to the track soon........my heads gonna explode! __________________ Don Himes 2075

05-30-2008, 04:34 PM	#2
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers In the end it's the guys who bent the rules too far AND NHRA for not having the balls to call them on it. So we have some of our fellow racers who caused this mess.Another fun day in NHRA drag racing. Ed F. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

05-30-2008, 05:47 PM	#3
seb Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Arkadelphia,Ar Posts: 32 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers All you guys have a point or are correct in some things you are saying. I have been racing NHRA since 1973 (I think) and have heard the same old things being said and have said some of them myself since I started racing NHRA. The point being that we are never going to agree on all the things that are or are not changed. So, lets race or stay at home and bracket race but always be civil to each other no matter what our positions because it will never change. Some will be for changes others will be for the status quo. Personally, I'm just glad to be able to go occasionally and enjoy getting to see old friends and make a few passes down the track. S.E.Buchanan 4708 Stock 4777 Super/Stock

05-30-2008, 06:08 PM	#4
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,132 Likes: 1,605 Liked 1,914 Times in 429 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers If you pay $6500 for a set of Stock heads, I hope they pick you up at least 5 tenths. We bought a BRAND NEW set of heads last Fall, NEW castings and ALL new parts, it was well under $4000, and included gaskets and spark plugs even. And NHRA is NOT going back to the old rules because they have no desire to spend time and money to enforce them. So we'll have to live with what we have. As far as that subject goes, we can only lobby against additional changes of that nature. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

05-30-2008, 08:42 PM	#6
John Duzac Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Covington, La Posts: 313 Likes: 63 Liked 83 Times in 20 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers I agree with S.E. Buchanan: Just being able to go to the races and see old friends and make a few passes. And along the way, it would be nice to go a few rounds. Looking forward to the Memphis points meet... __________________ John Duzac D/S 4448 STK

05-30-2008, 10:59 PM	#7
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Several have mentioned going back to real racing and a performance eliminator. Well that would be heads up off the index or record. Sounds fine to me! Lower the index? To hell with the index. As Mr. Beard said its all realative. Until you correctly factor the combinations you won't change a thing. Lower the index 1 second and all you will have is a select bunch of underfactored cars patting each other on the back trying to make themselves feel good because they couldn't make middle of the field in todays events if factors were fairly considered and applied where necessary.

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