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Old 11-14-2024, 03:43 PM   #1
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The fundamental issue is the lack tear-downs and tech. I?m new to this but I believe the whole Idea of getting HP adjustments has been a foundational part of class racing. Having a standardized system that corrections are based off seems better than the opinion option of days gone by. In my opinion the real flaw is there is no option to have a correction reversed based on the current average of the combo. If the trigger involved a tear down to verify the legitimacy of the combo. There would be no need to reduce. That will never happen again or be an option.

I understand there are people out there much smarter and work way harder than I do to be fast. They should have no issue with a hp correction. They will continue to be smarter and harder working than the rest of us slow lazy guys. I will continue to work on my junk and get better. It would be easier to simply change combos and beat my chest about my intelligence. But then again I?m just a dumb farm kid with a combo that has been obliterated. I choose the path of perseverance and stupidity.
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Old 11-14-2024, 04:18 PM   #2
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Brian..LT1 and LS1 running against all the big block combos! I work on my junk too as much as budget will allow. I'm not as fast as you yet but if indexes get chopped .3 across the board...I might just own a couple of over priced bracket cars.
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I?ve reviewed a few final qualifying sheets from this years races. There are not very many cars that can?t run .2 under in SS and .3 under in Stock. On the ones I?ve looked at, including the 128 qualified field at Maple Grove, take out the cars that lift during qualifying and broke, the number is a very small percentage of Stock and SS racers that would be over the index after those reductions. So I don?t see the argument of losing a bunch of racers if the indexes got lowered.
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But why lose any?
What overall good for the class will it do?
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I?ve reviewed a few final qualifying sheets from this years races. There are not very many cars that can?t run .2 under in SS and .3 under in Stock. On the ones I?ve looked at, including the 128 qualified field at Maple Grove, take out the cars that lift during qualifying and broke, the number is a very small percentage of Stock and SS racers that would be over the index after those reductions. So I don?t see the argument of losing a bunch of racers if the indexes got lowered.
I would agree with you using either coast or the south. It would not affect as many racers with your environmental conditions. If I was smart enough to post an image I would show you qual sheets up here in the heat that a 1/4 of the field would be out of luck. Environmental conditions we run in are just different.
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Old 11-14-2024, 05:56 PM   #6
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I?ve reviewed a few final qualifying sheets from this years races. There are not very many cars that can?t run .2 under in SS and .3 under in Stock. On the ones I?ve looked at, including the 128 qualified field at Maple Grove, take out the cars that lift during qualifying and broke, the number is a very small percentage of Stock and SS racers that would be over the index after those reductions. So I don?t see the argument of losing a bunch of racers if the indexes got lowered.
Maple Grove was near sea level all weekend where as Numidia is typically near 4,000' all weekend and consider Stock does their qualifying 9-10am, that same car can't run that number at 4pm in July.
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Maple Grove was near sea level all weekend where as Numidia is typically near 4,000' all weekend and consider Stock does their qualifying 9-10am, that same car can't run that number at 4pm in July.
I looked at Numidia from this year. There were 6 cars that were .204 under and below. One is a stocker running SS, 2 or 3 lift during qualifying and 2 others were having problems. The guy I raced was one of them. Qualified with a 10.55 and ran in the 20?s against me first round. Again, the number that would be over the index on an all out run if .2 was taken off the indexes is minimal. Say what you want about overall car counts. Quotas at national events are almost alway over, turning racers away, and the LODRS races in most areas have over 50 cars in each category.
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