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Old 04-09-2024, 06:17 PM   #1
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Really sry about the book above, but I was screwed in 1994 as 1). I did not know the answers. 2). Fuel ck was open a day before. 3). That tech guy was great, knew how to resolve my issue, sold me a brand new 2.5 gal fuel container out of his own truck, then called & arranged a Las Vegas track maintenance employee to secure and sell me for cash 2 gallons of red diesel out of a temp lighting unit on the property, then stay with me teaching me the system wash procedure until I passed. Luckily there was time the day before Q1 to complete it.

Today, you are not even assured that the scale will be manned, ckd., and accurate or fuel ck will be open after pitting. And Q1 comes early in the AM.
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Concerning switching to race gas for fuel check, on my 85 Mustang Stocker, I retained the factory steel gas tank, and for running non LODRS or National events, I would run Chevron mid grade pump gas, which was usually 3 to 4 hundreths quicker than C12 in my low compression, carbed 302, mainly because in Canada, VP C12 was over 20 bucks a gallon. Before getting ready to enter a NHRA Divisional or National event, I would run the fuel pump with the line to the carb running into a fuel jug, until it stopped pumping, then I would add a couple of gallons of C12, and pump that out, then leave the gas cap off, to "air out" for at least an hour, then add more fresh C12, and then load the car up for the trip to the track. Maybe I was just lucky, but I never failed fuel check doing this method.Your results may vary.
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One step ahead.....numerous back....

Had an accelerator pump weeping a bit, so I replaced it. Hit the key and won't fire? Checked, yup lots of gas...no spark??? After a bit of wire tracing and pulling the msd box out I found a momentary switch under the dash went bad! I had installed it 30 years or so ago when I was running the 302 with 2 4bbls and had the distributor locked out at 38*. I would hold in the button to get it rolling over then let it out to fire it up. Apparently it decided that it didn't want to play any more. Better here than the track of course. Totally forgot it was there! lol.

Installed a neutral switch.

Found a pair of red seats...buddy wants $350 for the pair. Still looking....

Wrote off the wifes bronco

Tore my left bicep muscle off working out so that laid me up a bit.

First race is 24 May.....getting concerned. It might be a bracket car until I get the rest of the stocker stuff finished...
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Old 05-02-2024, 03:08 PM   #4
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We run a second tank with nitrous fuel. If u have 2 tanks, 1 pump and 1 race gas. Then only thing to clean is lines going forward.
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We run a second tank with nitrous fuel. If u have 2 tanks, 1 pump and 1 race gas. Then only thing to clean is lines going forward.
Ck the book, now all Stockers can add a fuel cell (it wasn't always like that, days gone by only the fast cars could), but we all can now if properly done, but it also states if you do, the stock tank must also be removed.

I can just imagine the look, hey what is that other tank over there...Answer, oh. That is our nitrous (or pump gas), fuel tank. Lol. And the fine tooth comb search for associated lines, selenoids, etc.
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Ck the book, now all Stockers can add a fuel cell (it wasn't always like that, days gone by only the fast cars could), but we all can now if properly done, but it also states if you do, the stock tank must also be removed.

I can just imagine the look, hey what is that other tank over there...Answer, oh. That is our nitrous (or pump gas), fuel tank. Lol. And the fine tooth comb search for associated lines, selenoids, etc.
LOL. After I sent it I should have made it clearer. Now does one tank with race gas go up front. Less cleaning.
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Sooooo.....
1) Got my springs/retainers/locks, but my lifters still haven't come in.
2) Tried to put on collectors and the four sets of heeaders I have, the ones installed have an odd ball size collector flange.
3) bought new plugs but even though the machine shows them for a 79-93 mustang...they're the wrong ones. I even thought to run them but after sticking them in a head and looking in the chamber? Umm, nope can't use them.
4) Got the car painted...it's very apparent I'm a mechanic and not a painter! LOL! I think I should of painted it orange there's so much peel!
5) I'm buying slicks from a local Stocker guy and tried to get tubes...nope, a month out. I have a partial solution, we'll see...
6) I haven't pulled the engine to confirm 24 or 26 spline converter (Put it in, in 1993 and don't remember what I ordered, I just know it's a truck, pan fill c4) so until then, I'll be running the 2800 stall bracket converter.

So it looks like I'll be going to a bracket race this weekend with wrong cam/heads/intake/converter, no collectors......this will be a "first time since 1997 it's been on the track" so I have zero expectations, just get it on the track. Make a few passes and look for bugs to work out.
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Concerning switching to race gas for fuel check, on my 85 Mustang Stocker, I retained the factory steel gas tank, and for running non LODRS or National events, I would run Chevron mid grade pump gas, which was usually 3 to 4 hundreths quicker than C12 in my low compression, carbed 302, mainly because in Canada, VP C12 was over 20 bucks a gallon. Before getting ready to enter a NHRA Divisional or National event, I would run the fuel pump with the line to the carb running into a fuel jug, until it stopped pumping, then I would add a couple of gallons of C12, and pump that out, then leave the gas cap off, to "air out" for at least an hour, then add more fresh C12, and then load the car up for the trip to the track. Maybe I was just lucky, but I never failed fuel check doing this method.Your results may vary.
Well, that was nice it always ckd. out good, mine failed just that once, and it was a real pain the way he told me to do it. That sounds like it worked out a lot better.
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