Why is there no interest in all new combos

[Tony Corley]

Just an observation, from the outside looking in. There are a multitude of obvious reasons that the younger crowd isn't class racing in Stock and Super Stock, but to think that they are not drag racing is delusional. Heads up racing is what excites the younger generation, with power adders taking the forefront. Go to any heads up race and look at the racers. Especially the latest fad of No Prep style racing. Or Grudge Racing. It's young guys (and gals), in turbo, supercharged, or nitrous cars, with very minimal rules, racing first to the finish line wins. They don't have to be bothered with certain part numbers to be legal. And they get to go way quicker than any Stock Eliminator, and probably all but maybe a couple Super Stock cars. And on top of that, the purses are larger. I'm an old guy. I grew up around Gas and Modified, Stock and Super Stock. I've been debating building a new Stock or SS car. But truthfully, every time I start adding up the cost, I wonder "why do I want to spend this much money, to go this slow, for this limited return on investment" For the same money, I can build a 7 second, (or quicker), stock style suspension doorslammer, and race somewhere almost every weekend, without the hassles you guys go through to even try to get accepted to enter a race. Again, I'm not knocking Class Racing, I have always loved it. But I'm just voicing my opinion why it is dying out.

[Tom P]

Originally Posted by Mike Gray

This is the reason I sold my super gas car to build a “slower” stocker. I’ll get the same enjoyment building and driving it as the super gas car but there is NO excitement watching that group of cars run. Super comp dragsters have to be the worst, at least the others look like cars. What really kills it is watching a group of top dragsters run how they should preform and it makes super comp look like a grown up version of jr. dragster.

The first time I ever saw the delay stuff was the Seattle NW Nats. I recall a red 57 CHev, Harding I think the guys name. Pretty much a ProMod car and running in Super Gas (may have even been Super Street) It moved off the line and rolled slowly for a couple seconds then ran 9.90 at around 200. That was interesting because it was crazy but once everyone did that it is just annoying. I hope that never happens in Stock where the 632 Copo fits K/SA and runs a 4 second 60 foot time and 11.40 at 179 and becomes the norm.

Originally Posted by 1320racer

18 year olds today ain't working full time, many ain't working at all and they ain't interested in a car, no mind buying a new car, hell many don't even have nor want a license so your self serving rant is flawed. IMO, the NHRA has been spot on with the introduction of the Big 3 factory stock eliminator cars.

•No one except old men get excited about a 69 Camaro today much less a 73 Plymouth Duster. Further, a 10 second street car is the equivalent of watching paint dry today much less watching a race car run that!

I challenge you to build a stocker or Superstocker and step away from your amazingly fast keyboard. Show us how it’s done.
I take offense to your statement. So should others.

You continue to disrespect stock and Superstock racers. It took a while but you are gaining confidence here to see what you can get away with.
You don’t run stock or Superstock!



*I’ll refer to the Rayburn Rule. Look it up!

[JP1738]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

18 year olds today ain't working full time, many ain't working at all and they ain't interested in a car, no mind buying a new car, hell many don't even have nor want a license so your self serving rant is flawed

I'm so tired of boomers saying my generation won't work. We can't afford anything, much less a factory stock combo.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by JP1738

We can't afford anything, much less a factory stock combo.

A good deal of the "kids" at my local track will run Street or Trophy or whatever they can in whatever they have. They want to race and that's what they can afford.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

A good deal of the "kids" at my local track will run Street or Trophy or whatever they can in whatever they have. They want to race and that's what they can afford.

Agree, IF the "kids" want to race they will race whatever car in whatever class they can afford. The issue though is they don't want to race, have little to no interest in cars no mind drag racing..

[Billy Nees]

Ed, there is no problem getting a good crowd of "kids" at my local track. And when they're not at the local track, most of them have an old Farmall H or a FWD pickup that they're at a local truck-and-tractor pull with.

[GUMP]

In a lot of cases, it's the same guys that were racing (or wanted to race) a new car back in the "good old days" that are now buying the FS cars. Since the rules have changed so much over the years, the FS cars are now the equivalent of taking a 1973 Duster from the dealer to the track. If not easier.

There was a time when many local tracks were running Stock Eliminator on a weekly basis. A lot more people were involved back then. Cars were marketed to customers based on there ability to run Stock. The market just isn't there anymore. The OEMs don't have designated people to populate the guides like they used to.

Every once in a while, you run into someone that is willing to put in the time to help you. But, that is a kind act on their part to take on the added work load.

[Billy Nees]

Paul, go back and re-read the "New classes in Stock" thread and you will come to the realization (as I did) that nobody cares.

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Paul, go back and re-read the "New classes in Stock" thread and you will come to the realization (as I did) that nobody cares.

Billy I suspect NHRA accountants care about the income racers bring into NHRA via Miemeberships,entry fees,money spend with NHRA advertisers and the companies brought to NHRA from racers contacts The money goes into the pot regarless of where it comes from