I'd just lke to shout a big THANK YOU to the racer

[GUMP]

The one second under run shows the potential of the combination. Owners of slower cars with the same combination do not deserve welfare. They have been shown what's possible....

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by GUMP

The one second under run shows the potential of the combination. Owners of slower cars with the same combination do not deserve welfare. They have been shown what's possible....

I can't necessarily disagree with that.


I think some people find that they may have gotten themselves into a deeper end of the pool. There are certain classes, and certain combinations, where you and your wallet are going to pay a higher price to compete. Since I don't play the lottery, I'll never be in the COPO/Drag Pack/Cobra Jet classes. And I'm good with that.



As Eastwood said in the movie, "A man's got to know his limitations."

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by GUMP

The one second under run shows the potential of the combination. Owners of slower cars with the same combination do not deserve welfare. They have been shown what's possible....

BUT, here in the 21ST century these one second under runs are being made by cars which aren't being looked at. Wouldn't it be a real injustice to the "slower cars with the same combination" if the one second under runs are being made by cars that wouldn't pass a teardown?
What ARE the odds of being torndown at a race today? Even if a car makes a one second under run?

Alan, one of my favorite quotes!

[L.Fite]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

BUT, here in the 21ST century these one second under runs are being made by cars which aren't being looked at. Wouldn't it be a real injustice to the "slower cars with the same combination" if the one second under runs are being made by cars that wouldn't pass a teardown?
What ARE the odds of being torndown at a race today? Even if a car makes a one second under run?

Alan, one of my favorite quotes!

More tech would make the AHFS more fair if it meant a level playing field...

So with the schedules and lack of inspectors, how does one implement the process?

[Charles Stewart]

I jump in this subject and I know I will put more “fuel to the flames”. ( please don’t shoot the messenger here…)
But how about changing all those irritating rules with a “personal index” like the competition eliminator category.
No more sandbags, no more .85 under, no more one second under. Run at the pace than you want with the pocket that you have and please with a maximum of cars field, everywhere possible…

[Alan Roehrich]

I have said for years that, at the very least, any "instant HP hit" run should result in an old school national record level tear down.


One old school tech guy once told me that you'll find less than 1% as many rules infractions among the ten fastest cars at any given event than you will in the bottom ten cars. Of course, he was speaking of the guys running traditional cars, who were consistently fast over a period of years. And, as with any "rule", you will find exceptions.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

One old school tech guy once told me that you'll find less than 1% as many rules infractions among the ten fastest cars at any given event than you will in the bottom ten cars.

I've been told the same thing and for the longest time I believed it. I'm not so sure anymore.
Too many times I've been told "he's cheating so I'm gonna cheat too" and "you're gonna be OK as long as you don't go to Indy".
As I've said before, too many big egos.

[GUMP]

I am not against some of the "trigger cars" getting looked at. Including mine.

[ken robinson]

Mr PJ305 the -860 under was just there average over all , and if it is over -850 it gets HP . The amount of HP was off there fastest run what was in the -1.00 column . That's how I read the new system rules . I still wonder how many combos had an average of -849 ?

[Tony Fagnilli]

Originally Posted by GUMP

The one second under run shows the potential of the combination. Owners of slower cars with the same combination do not deserve welfare. They have been shown what's possible....

Welfare? I, along with Alex Simmons could run just as fast or faster than Ryan. We choose not to, to help save the average. I think you're missing the point of my post. We know the potential of our cars. We don't need to be shown, "what's possible.