Car classification guide Gen5 and Gen6 Camaro

[GTS340]

Which department of today's manufactures actually submits the specs. The "manufacture" use to submit 4drs, stationwagons, trim coded cars, with every engine the manufacture had available. It appears now by NHRA books. The only vehicle Chrysler makes is a Challenger with a Hemi.

Paul H

[Larry Merk]

Originally Posted by GTS340

Which department of today's manufactures actually submits the specs. The "manufacture" use to submit 4drs, stationwagons, trim coded cars, with every engine the manufacture had available. It appears now by NHRA books. The only vehicle Chrysler makes is a Challenger with a Hemi.

Paul H

Which department submits specs? The Department of REVENUE of course. It is all about money.

All 3 manufacturers submit only the cars they want you to race: brand new COPO Camaros, Cobra Jet Mustangs, and Drag Pak Challengers.

They don't see any benefit to themselves putting station wagons or anything else in the guide. Go look in Dwight's Class Racer Info database and I don't think you will find any cars except those I listed above after 2008.

[Charles Stewart]

Actually you have in the guide for stock car classification, the 2011 to 2014 Ford Mustang coupe with a V6 and the 2015 with a 4 Cylinders turbo.

[2Ton71]

Originally Posted by Charles Stewart

Actually you have in the guide for stock car classification, the 2011 to 2014 Ford Mustang coupe with a V6 and the 2015 with a 4 Cylinders turbo.

I had a 2013 3.7 V6 Mustang, and it ran 13.80s with just a tuner. Stock 3.33 gear and 6R80. I think it was roughly 3650lbs with me in it. (stock trim with heavy 19" wheels)

That combination is a natural N/SA at 3505 with driver. 13.00 index.

With headers, trans, converter, gear, and better tune, you'd be in the ball park of a little under.

Like one said, you can scoop these cars up cheap as flood cars or just worn out used. Possible dime rocket potential since there's plenty of aftermarket available for them you can get used, and it's nice these have the 8.8 already under them.

Decent compression ratio allowed as well. 12.48:1

[Charles Stewart]

Originally Posted by 2Ton71

I had a 2013 3.7 V6 Mustang, and it ran 13.80s with just a tuner. Stock 3.33 gear and 6R80. I think it was roughly 3650lbs with me in it. (stock trim with heavy 19" wheels)

That combination is a natural N/SA at 3505 with driver. 13.00 index.

With headers, trans, converter, gear, and better tune, you'd be in the ball park of a little under.

Like one said, you can scoop these cars up cheap as flood cars or just worn out used. Possible dime rocket potential since there's plenty of aftermarket available for them you can get used, and it's nice these have the 8.8 already under them.

Decent compression ratio allowed as well. 12.48:1

You will find here a old post from JHeath regarding Steve Stickel M/SA 2011 Mustang. (Index is 12,85)

Originally Posted by JHeath

I noticed Steve Stickel has been running a 2011 Mustang 3.7 in M/SA at several D1 races, has run right around - .40 under, car looks good

[2Ton71]

Originally Posted by Charles Stewart

You will find here a old post from JHeath regarding Steve Stickel M/SA 2011 Mustang. (Index is 12,85)

Very Nice! I'll check it out

[goinbroke2]

As far as the 3.7 ford engine, it's dohc/4v/alum head and block. From the factory, in a 2011 f-150, it shifts (from the factory) at 7000rpm. This is an awesome engine, can't believe it's the "base" to replace the 300 six!

Here is me racing it, put it in drive, let it shift itself.
(spoiler, I won!)

[dragracerray]

Originally Posted by Charles Stewart

Actually you have in the guide for stock car classification, the 2011 to 2014 Ford Mustang coupe with a V6 and the 2015 with a 4 Cylinders turbo.

Thanks for the information Charles. It is good that V6's are covered for these years.

BUT, Blue Oval fans! There is nothing in the classification guide to cover any Ford car after 2019!! You guys need to be contacting Ford to get your specs to NHRA. Even the years between 2015 and 2019 stink. You are all set if you want to race a Focus but NOTHING ELSE is there. I hope someone steps up to get these specs to NHRA.
Merry Christmas, Ray

[Dan Bennett]

Originally Posted by GTS340

Which department of today's manufactures actually submits the specs. The "manufacture" use to submit 4drs, stationwagons, trim coded cars, with every engine the manufacture had available. It appears now by NHRA books. The only vehicle Chrysler makes is a Challenger with a Hemi.

Paul H

As I remember it, the AMA (Automobile Manufacturers of America) required each make to submit detailed specifications of every car they built. The NHRA got that info from them and that's where the detailed engine specs, weight, etc. came from.

By this time in my life, I run into hazy memory at times but I seem to remember that when the imports gained a big chunk of production, the AMA ceased to exist - because of the "American" in their name now only produced only part of production instead of all of it. Then again, maybe they still exist and dropped the requirement for documentation.

I'm sure you remember it wasn't always that the manufacturers had to apply to the NHRA. Only when it was after the start of model year production (Cobra Jet, etc) and that year's book had already been received in Glendora.