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Old 11-17-2023, 02:23 PM   #1
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and if there were any "common sense" involved, the I and J cars would be deemed either not quite legal or in need of HP. Take your pick.
Having been at Indy, IMHO tech was a little on the light side and the cars that were checked were, again IMHO, pretty "safe" teardowns.
Yes sir may I have another horsepower or two. Just make me work harder Billy. Lol
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Old 11-17-2023, 03:25 PM   #2
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Here ya go Glenn,

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Old 11-17-2023, 04:21 PM   #3
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Ok Billy so picking a combo that is factored well and then working hard on it should get it horsepower. And why did I pick a performance class.............should just be bracket racing then. So you never picked a combo that wasn't factored to death and ran well with it ?
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Ok Billy so picking a combo that is factored well and then working hard on it should get it horsepower. And why did I pick a performance class.............should just be bracket racing then. So you never picked a combo that wasn't factored to death and ran well with it ?
Glenn, you picked a "combo that is factored well" knowing that if you worked hard on it you would go fast with it. You "picked a performance class" because you choose to gauge yourself against others who do the same. And being in the business you're in, I would think that would be a part of doing business. The only business I'm in at this point in my life is monkey business.
You and I both know what kind of combos I pick, generally poor combos that I can work hard on to try and get them to somewhat compare to good combos.
Now the combos that I have picked that are "well factored" combos are usually junk and that's how they are treated. But you know that.
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Old 11-17-2023, 10:44 PM   #5
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Billy how dare you call any of those combo's soft. You have one of the softest combo's out there. How many of those dime ( Junk yard ) rockets have you even take the motor out and do as much as you can under the stock rules. Ever try to get a piston approved for your dime rockets? Give one of your cars to Glenn and I'll bet it end up gong 1.50 under.

Glenn, Billy picks combo's softer than yours he just has no clue on what to do to make it go fast. BP
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Old 11-18-2023, 12:25 PM   #6
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Glenn, Billy picks combo's softer than yours he just has no clue on what to do to make it go fast. BP
Now that right there is hilarious! Completely off the mark but hilarious to think "Billy doesn't know"..Bwahahahahaha!!
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Now that right there is hilarious! Completely off the mark but hilarious to think "Billy doesn't know"..Bwahahahahaha!!
Dan I've known Billy for the better part of 40 years. I know what he is capable of. He chooses to race the way he does and I don't really have a problem with it. But he's quick to point his finger at other combo's including mine. I like to sometimes point a finger back at him. His combo is as soft as all the rest of them. If I ran my car on his racing budget I would be lucky to run under the index.

At Indy this year 132 Stockers out of 146 went fast enough to get HP if they took Indy as the combo's average. Indy was faster than most years but it's still Indy and by no means was mine shaft air. The index's are soft as all heck and most of us had too play the AHFS game all year not to get hit HP at the end of the year. To me that's sad for what once was a performance based class.

If the AHFS is truly ever going to work for the reasons it was first implemented It needs to have some big changes. I don't see it happening, but I hold out hope that our reps can actually influence those in power to make some changes to help bring performance back into class racing without the fear of those that like to go fast getting their combo's ruined. BP
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Old 11-18-2023, 04:56 PM   #8
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Billy how dare you call any of those combo's soft. You have one of the softest combo's out there. How many of those dime ( Junk yard ) rockets have you even take the motor out and do as much as you can under the stock rules. Ever try to get a piston approved for your dime rockets? Give one of your cars to Glenn and I'll bet it end up gong 1.50 under.

Glenn, Billy picks combo's softer than yours he just has no clue on what to do to make it go fast. BP
Damn Straight! All these FWD racers put skinnies on the back and thank that they are hero's racink junk!
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Damn Straight! All these FWD racers put skinnies on the back and thank that they are hero's racink junk!
Now don't go and trash the few Racers out there racing FWD combos! I'm the only one (to my knowledge) running "junk"!
If it's so easy, everyone would be doing it.
You should try it sometime. ;-)
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Ok Billy so picking a combo that is factored well and then working hard on it should get it horsepower. And why did I pick a performance class.............should just be bracket racing then. So you never picked a combo that wasn't factored to death and ran well with it ?
Glenn picked a good combo but still is the fastest of that combo that I’ve ever seen yet and definitely works hard to get every thousandth of a second out of that combo. If it gets a hit, I’m sure Glenn will pick it right back up or do whatever he thinks best.
Billy also works hard but in a different way striving to do the most with the least.
2 hard working racers achieving similar goals in very different ways.
Best of luck to both of you going forward.
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