Make Divisionals Great Again

[JGrossijr]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Let's be clear and all agree, nothing will change that benefits the racer, payout certainly won't increase, the contingency program won't get better, track conditions will still vary from track to track as will the rollout and the NHRA will still struggle to finish the event on Sunday many times. THIS is all the racers that are paying the entry fee at the gate care about, not spectators in the stands, not the concessions stand, not a barbecue and not live music.

Divisionals will not be great again!

I disagree and think this opinion is shortsighted. I go to the races to have fun. Many of the suggestions put forward are aimed at improving the racer and spectator experience. Done in good measure this should translate into improved proitability for track owners. Most of us also care about sustainability of the sport. Making events more profitable is the best way to secure our future.
Jim Grossi

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Let's be clear and all agree, nothing will change that benefits the racer, payout certainly won't increase, the contingency program won't get better, track conditions will still vary from track to track as will the rollout and the NHRA will still struggle to finish the event on Sunday many times. THIS is all the racers that are paying the entry fee at the gate care about, not spectators in the stands, not the concessions stand, not a barbecue and not live music.

Divisionals will not be great again!

I have to agree with Ed here. These tracks have to decide if they can get enough entries to justify having a division race. It would be really hard for a track owner to throw money at trying to draw spectators to an event that like it or not people just aren't interested in us. I know it hurts my pride a little to say that but it's true. We had some friends of ours go to Charlotte in the Spring with us and I honestly had a headache at the end of the day trying to explain the different classes and how each worked. They wanted to be interested but they just didn't get it but when the Pros ran they really didn't ask any questions but loved it......heads up classes is what people understand and like

[1320racer]

Not only will Divisionals not be great again but tracks will continue to close, meaning there will be less divisionals and more travel.

[Bobby Fazio]

We already know it's possible and we already have a great example of how successful divisionals can be, Summit Motorsports Park. Bader packs the house and makes more money than he does at his National. So if we already know it's possible, how do we get more tracks to take a similar approach?

[TOSTO RACING]

Have a huge manufactures midway get the sponsors involved again ,advertise the event heavily like a National! As of right now there are no spectators anyway ,so let them in free, they will buy stuff at the midway , parts, food ,t shirts, etc. Make them BIG events. Advertise advertise advertise!!!! We already know we will show up no matter what the pay is lol. The key is getting fans in the stands so the tracks want more of these races !

[1320racer]

Bader is successful because of that track's location, there's no magic to it. He couldn't move the needle in his stint at Maple Grove.

There's no manufactures midway to speak of anymore at national events because the NHRA chased them all away with their unreasonable fees, sane fees would apply to divisionals that have far less racers and no fans in the stands.

[Bobby Fazio]

Bader literally told me in our podcast together that Maple Grove's location is the best, in fact much better than his.

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Bader is successful because of that track's location, there's no magic to it. He couldn't move the needle in his stint at Maple Grove.

There's no manufactures midway to speak of anymore at national events because the NHRA chased them all away with their unreasonable fees, sane fees would apply to divisionals that have far less racers and no fans in the stands.

[Bobby Fazio]

Dude should have realized that In-N-Out Burgers were only $6-8 at Pomona. But I wholeheartedly agree that the cost of everything is way out of line. I have been arguing that NHRA national tickets are way too expensive for their demographic but as long as they keep posting pics of sellout crowds, I have no case. Seems Saturday is their only sellout day though, no one seems to care as much for Sunday finals anymore. Anyways, this thread is about increasing divisional spectator attendance!

Originally Posted by BKSG1198

"Im really perturbed in Pomona raceway I dont care what association it partakes in but if its $15 for a hot dog or $23 for a sandwich it better be at least descent it amazes me the cost of everything and get sub-par absolute junk . I understand inflation but these venues are failing if you disagree you are the problem . No common family can come out here and afford for a good time"

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio

Bader literally told me in our podcast together that Maple Grove's location is the best, in fact much better than his.

if so why did he FAIL? Answer because it's NOT!

[RKelliher]

Bader did not fail at Maple Grove, he was brought in as a consulant not track manager. That was 2018, they did fairly well there without a track manager. They sold out sat. of National event that year. not bad, so he didn't fail. Get the facts straight.