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Old 09-06-2023, 05:25 PM   #1
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I was looking for the DRC version because it displays the qualifying position and the NHRA Live Results do not.
And as I recall, I don't think either versions were 100% correct. If you are going to count first round of stock class as qualifying, then you should be able to put out a list, which can be amended if there is an issue in teardown shortly there after. Or if you can't maybe you shouldn't run the eliminator the following day. It is amazing everyone gets their vehicle back together in 7 to 10 hours after teardown. You would think you could put out an up to-date qualifying sheet in the same amount of time.

And while I am ranting, who the h... protests a racer who is at his first US Nationals and asks to have them look at his crankshaft. Knowing full well that it will require the engine to be pulled from the car and completely disassembled with very little time to get it put back together for a next day 8 am first round of stock eliminator. That person is one SOB! And he had to lodge the complaint on Wednesday to make it happen on Thursday. NHRA Tech should have realized what it was for and put the kabosh on it. Harassments plain and simple. I don't race any more, just follow it and it still burns my fanny that this was allowed to happen. My motto was never complain, never explain; do unto others as they do to you. Those that deserve respect get respect, those that don't ... well the they don't get any!

When Steve Gibbs retired, running of the races has been a bit loose and seems like they don't have the knowledgeable people or enough of them to do the job right any longer!

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Proud to say Donnie Beeler is a friend and was definitely happy to see his victory and that he is a US Nationals Champion! Way to go Donnie and Goldie!

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Old 09-06-2023, 06:48 PM   #2
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And as I recall, I don't think either versions were 100% correct. If you are going to count first round of stock class as qualifying, then you should be able to put out a list, which can be amended if there is an issue in teardown shortly there after. Or if you can't maybe you shouldn't run the eliminator the following day. It is amazing everyone gets their vehicle back together in 7 to 10 hours after teardown. You would think you could put out an up to-date qualifying sheet in the same amount of time.

And while I am ranting, who the h... protests a racer who is at his first US Nationals and asks to have them look at his crankshaft. Knowing full well that it will require the engine to be pulled from the car and completely disassembled with very little time to get it put back together for a next day 8 am first round of stock eliminator. That person is one SOB! And he had to lodge the complaint on Wednesday to make it happen on Thursday. NHRA Tech should have realized what it was for and put the kabosh on it. Harassments plain and simple. I don't race any more, just follow it and it still burns my fanny that this was allowed to happen. My motto was never complain, never explain; do unto others as they do to you. Those that deserve respect get respect, those that don't ... well the they don't get any!

When Steve Gibbs retired, running of the races has been a bit loose and seems like they don't have the knowledgeable people or enough of them to do the job right any longer!

Don McElroy

Proud to say Donnie Beeler is a friend and was definitely happy to see his victory and that he is a US Nationals Champion! Way to go Donnie and Goldie!

Never been to Indy and probably never will, but if I went and an anonymous person protested me and wanted to see my crank it would be the end of my class racing, now if he had the B*** to give his name I would have no problem tearing down. We call them cowards where I come from. I guess it is just the way I am wired.

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Never been to Indy and probably never will, but if I went and an anonymous person protested me and wanted to see my crank it would be the end of my class racing, now if he had the B*** to give his name I would have no problem tearing down. We call them cowards where I come from. I guess it is just the way I am wired.

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Well said Randy! Just ticks me off and I was not even involved. But feel bad for Jim who I don't know and I am glad several racers banded together to help Jim, his brother and son get the car back together in time to make the 8 am eliminations!
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Well said Randy! Just ticks me off and I was not even involved. But feel bad for Jim who I don't know and I am glad several racers banded together to help Jim, his brother and son get the car back together in time to make the 8 am eliminations!
"Jim" Beuthel, Boudreau or Parsons?
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Robin Lawerence was replaced by Saurbaugh he ran Donnie Beeler
Gaffney was replaced by Rees V/SA, he ran Weinzapfel.
Mattson was replaced by Randi Lynn, she ran E. Buth
McCormick was replaced by Tolston, he ran J. Fisher
Marty Buth was replaced by Welfel, he ran Ann Toews
Findell was replaced by Davidson, he ran G. Emmons
Cagnazzi was replaced by Utsler, he ran B. Michael
McConnell was replaced by Tilton, he ran J. Shipp

Davidson was 129
RLynn 130
Tilton 131
B. Parker 132
Utsler 133
Welfel 134
Saurbaugh 135
Rees 136
Toltson 146
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What caused Lawrence, Gaffney, Mattson, McCormick and Buth to all miss the first round?
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