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Old 08-17-2023, 07:10 AM   #1
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Default Re: Joe Newbie, 20 Builds a "Stocker"' in 2023

This thread reminds me of the autumn green stick nova build. Now I believe cost was not an issue but would love to hear their thoughts and feedback on jumping into stock with a new build. The cost involved and all the issues they ran into and of course why she lost interest….
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Old 08-17-2023, 11:46 PM   #2
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Jump to end of story: Racer NB finally decides to build the same car into a bracket racer that's quicker than the car would be in Stock at 2/3 the cost and goes on the circuit chasing $5 to 10000-to win purses at the same entry fees. Whether he feels the same satisfaction remains to be seen.
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Old 08-17-2023, 11:58 PM   #3
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NB has been busy lately. He buys a gallon of pure white acrylic and hardener from Summit. The bodyman at work offers to spray the Chevy in his home spray booth

VR has been assembling the 283 during after work hours.

NB gets a cash advance on a credit card and buys a used open trailer from Craigslist

He takes apart his original 4GC carburetor and cleans all the parts.
He stops by VR's place after work..
Hey buddy, I found these pics on the net, The first one looks just like mine, but the second one is different down inside. What's legal to do to these things?



VR> Glad you asked. You used to have to run the original 66 boosters, or venturi clusters as they're sometimes called. The exact same part number. The ones with the small center hole in the pressed in tin horn..Now they don't check any of that stuff.You can use any booster that you might find in another make of GM car.
The only rules are the throttle bore size, the venturi size, and oh yeah, the boosters can't be "too shiny" .
There are some guys that are real good with these, like Deano, but I think you're doing the right thing by learning them inside and out. If you have to work on the carb at the track, you want to be familiar with them.

NB will be picking up his T 200 soon, from another racer that lives north of Phoenix. He does a great entry level transmission ;-)

We're moving right along now. NB might be able to test this thing in a couple of month, if Wild Horse re-opens.

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Old 08-18-2023, 11:10 PM   #4
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And here I thought I was going to be reading a post about actually helping a younger crowd enter the classes, boy was I wrong and disappointed. Being what I feel is part of the younger crowd in our classes (36) I am very thankful to have had influencers that not only helped, but understood my situation, and gave me the early lesson of “you can do it yourself on budget and go racing, but when YOU decide to try going fast, it’s gonna cost!” As some others have stated, many of our racers are the Bain of our own existence
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And here I thought I was going to be reading a post about actually helping a younger crowd enter the classes, boy was I wrong and disappointed. Being what I feel is part of the younger crowd in our classes (36) I am very thankful to have had influencers that not only helped, but understood my situation, and gave me the early lesson of “you can do it yourself on budget and go racing, but when YOU decide to try going fast, it’s gonna cost!” As some others have stated, many of our racers are the Bain of our own existence
Would love to hear a different side of the same story, please make a thread of how you went about entering stock including your build and who helped you to get into it.
Maybe hear from someone Billy Nees helped? I would love to hear that story

Now to me this story is an eye opening truth to those wannabes that look at stock blindly and think they can build a car like any other bracket car. It’s not saying it can’t be done, just what to expect.
Thanks Mark for posting
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Old 08-19-2023, 07:26 AM   #6
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Ya know, there's a "newbie" who happens to be a member of a prominent racing family in Div. 3 and is just getting things sorted out. This prominent racing family doesn't post much on here but maybe they could make an exception and make some helpful comments OR maybe even start a "build" thread?
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Getting close now...

NB> Hey, I'm running out of cash here. I see some 1 and 5/8 " headers on Summit. I think I'll get them with my credit card and add some collector extensions. What do you think?
VR> You should be able to run under the index with them, but 283s really react well to a good header. Maybe a step deal with merge collectors, or a set of stainless Tri /Y's ..Eventually you'll want to go that way..

NB maxes out his credit card for a fuel pump, gas line , fuel pressure gauge , sample valve, tach, oil and water gauges, line lock, two gas jugs, and a low pressure tire gauge.

The guys put the car all together, fire it up , break in the cam with some borrowed 1.3 rockers. Sounds great.

There's a rumor out there that the local track will be opening for some Friday night T&T action, so we wait...

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Would love to hear a different side of the same story, please make a thread of how you went about entering stock including your build and who helped you to get into it.
Maybe hear from someone Billy Nees helped? I would love to hear that story

Now to me this story is an eye opening truth to those wannabes that look at stock blindly and think they can build a car like any other bracket car. It’s not saying it can’t be done, just what to expect.
Thanks Mark for posting
I would definitely fall under the category of people that Billy has and continues to help get into class racing. I thought about starting a build thread when he, for better or worse, let me drag him into the project of converting the car from V/SA trim to F/SA trim over the past 4-5 months. He does like to say I’m the “insane kid” that tunes his efi cars, but decided to play with a 53 year old carbureted car.
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