Stock Eliminator,,,Boon or Bane?

[1347]

Originally Posted by B Parker

That tip thing might not be a bad idea. At the end of the race if you wanted to and felt the starting line crew did a great job keeping the track prepped have a paypal or go fund me account for the crew that worked the event. I don't think you need to tip 20 or more but if a bunch of racers tipped 5 to10 dollars it could add up to some decent money. I know most probably feel that they should do it with our entrance fee money but it's not the case often enough. If you go out to eat the server should wait on you and do a good job for the price we pay for a meal. But almost all of us leave a tip. It's also a good way for the starting line crew to keep track of how the racers felt they did their job. BP

Although I agree with you Barry that a tip would show appreciation. I'm not sure it would be fair to other people in the division that work hard at these races.It would be a slap in the face for people like William Holmes who spend up to 12 hours a day in D1 at his post. I think at the end of the year the racers should pool together and do something for our division crews. I appreciate all the division personel and think all these jobs are worth more than the state minimum wage they get.

[B Parker]

Originally Posted by 1347

Although I agree with you Barry that a tip would show appreciation. I'm not sure it would be fair to other people in the division that work hard at these races.It would be a slap in the face for people like William Holmes who spend up to 12 hours a day in D1 at his post. I think at the end of the year the racers should pool together and do something for our division crews. I appreciate all the division personel and think all these jobs are worth more than the state minimum wage they get.

I can't argue that point with you. I was thinking the same thing while I was writing it. We know without them there would be no race. I put most of them in the same spot we are in. They don't do it for the money but for the love of the sport. The old needle in the arm deal.
Last year at the Atco Divisional in I believe the third round I was right at the starting line along the fence. Bobby Broadbent blew the tires away to the point his car was fishtailing. Naturally he lost. All they did was a mop job not even spray. I was up there to watch the next pair and the last pair of Stock to go down. Heads up Ryan Horensky and Dave Ficacci. Should have been a great race unfortunately Ryan was in the right lane same as Bob before him and blew his tires away. This should not happen!! There are no excesses for it. We all know Ryans car doesn't have traction problems. All the time and effort we put into are cars long before we even travel to a race. The price to get there. Then the price to get into the race. You should not lose because of track prep. In fairness to Atco we know it was one of the best tracks for traction most of the time. Maybe there should be something where you could not only leave tips but also leave your thoughts about the race. BP

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by B Parker

Maybe there should be something where you could not only leave tips but also leave your thoughts about the race. BP

Isn't that one of the reasons for the existence of "ClassRacer"?

[James Perrone]

Pool resources for the Nhra crew. Really
That’s like tipping someone at Walmart for self scanning
The starting line prep is the same for everyone ..not every car spins most don’t
How about us racer put the extra $20 to a Calcutta
So we can win more $
The quick. 8 we run is cool ... but we only get half I believe

[1347]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

Pool resources for the Nhra crew. Really
That’s like tipping someone at Walmart for self scanning
The starting line prep is the same for everyone ..not every car spins most don’t
How about us racer put the extra $20 to a Calcutta
So we can win more $
The quick. 8 we run is cool ... but we only get half I believe

I would be all for a calcutta

[hrs1326]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

1) Lowering indexes will do nothing
2)See # 1
3) We need the AHFS - just need some tweaks
4)See #1 again
5)That would help but is very hard on the workers - both track people and NHRA workers
6)Won't happen
7)System is very much needed
8)I personally would like to go to more National events not less
9)Easier said than done
10)Do that and you'll lose manufactures
11)You'll never get 2 of them to agree to think alike let alone 12 .

All that plus I don't consider myself a troll or flamer !! Thanks for trying .

BTW - IF YOU WANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY USE YOUR GIVEN REAL NAME.

Well said Jack
I raced stock in the 70-80 era, left to go to the dark side NHRA TECH. Then 40 years go by and I get back in. WOW stock is nothing like it was. Stockers running 8’s and 9’s on 9 inch tires,it’s hard to believe
Still gonna race but don’t know how long the classes will survive.

[Cstockbird]

Originally Posted by B Parker

Now I have to give Kudos to Lebanon Valley when they run the All-Star Association there. Right before they send the All-Star class racers down Wayne the track manager hops on the tractor and gives the starting line 10 to 15 minutes of prep. Wayne is a monster on that tractor. What a difference those few minutes make. We have all seen even at tracks where the traction is good most of the time. As cars are spinning the tires all you get from the starting line crew is a mop job. And if you're lucky they may spray some glue but don't drag. It takes time and money to keep a good starting line. At the price it cost to race these days I don't think that is too much to ask for. BP

So happy to see this post, been friends w Wayne a long time from our construction days as well as at LVD, he’s such a good guy and cares so much about this sport and the track. I hadn’t been to the track in years and went w my boy one day, Wayne brought him up in the tower and treated him like royalty. Wayne had never even met him before. It’s a family up at LVD one of the places I most feel at home when I’m there , anyway just thought I’d say thanks for noticing and mention what a great ambassador to drag racing Wayne is as well. My kid talks about that day all the time w his friends And that may be the only exposure to the sport those kids have ever had.

After all we are the real small tire class.
That needs to be promoted.
There needs to be M O R E class runoffs, heads up racing draws crowds period.
Folks in the stands don’t really care or understand handicap racing. Yes I like handicap racing.

Every class has evolved in Hp so the end result is the track gets hammered. It has been pretty hard for track personnel to keep up on bald spots. The last Vegas race was a great example of that. Is it or was it the glue shortage? Tire technology has come a long way also so that also factors in.
There’s a few really good track whisperers that prep really well and stay after track conditions. Maybe they will chime in.
Weston at Boise comes to mind.

[GTX JOHN]

Our N/SA 318 Wagon EXPLODED the tires at
last Vegas race. It was one of the first pairs down
the Track.

It usually hooks well in the water box.