Atco is done

[Dave Gantz]

[QUOTE=Steve1118;683297]

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz

Local tracks, in general, have a (possibly) unearned reputation for not having a well prepped track on test, grudge, etc., nights. Class racers can't spend the money and time to chance a surface that may not be ultimate.


Oh, yes, I forgot. Class racers are much too important to race with commoners. Ler the Top Sportsman cars do that. My mistake.

I'm sorry, Steve. I'll reply, but I can't tell if that's written with sarcasm or not.

[Steve1118]

Sarcastic, absolutely. Read your statement back to yourself, and think about it. A friend ran the Tri State S/SS series in PA and Ohio, and it folded from lack of support. He eventually allowed NMCA NSS cars, which carried it for a while, but eventually gave it up. Worked hard it, paid a good purse, too. The last event he had at a top notch facility, it drew 2 (two) legal class cars. And, the track never charged admission to the competitors, the circuit handled all of it. Frankly, and with all due respect, I think your attitude sums up a lot of the problem. A nine second A/SA is no more dependent on track prep than a 9 second S/Pro car. Everybody had better start pulling in the same direction.or track closures are going to be more numerous.

[rboyle]

There is a big difference in track prep needed for a 9 second A/SA car vs a 9 second Super Pro car. Both cars are purpose built for a specific racing function. A well prepped Stocker is built with no electronics, to be raced in a bracket style mode but with the ability to run as fast as possible on an sll out heads up when necessary. The entire car is compromising durability for that ability to be as fast as possible once in a while.
A well prepped Super Pro car is purpose built to be as consistent as possible on any track and stay cool and require as little maintenance as needed while doing so.
It’s like using a sledge hammer to drive in finishing nails and a finish nail hammer to break up concrete. Two totally different purposes and functions but both are hammers

[SGSST109E]

IAA bought it. Looks like they are going to force the auction lot down the towns throat.

[Keith 944]

Originally Posted by Steve1118

A nine second A/SA is no more dependent on track prep than a 9 second S/Pro car. Everybody had better start pulling in the same direction.or track closures are going to be more numerous.

Gotta call B/S on this. You are overlooking the fact one is on a 9” wide tire the other is unlimited! I don’t know where you race or even care but track prep over the last few years has gone to **** at most places. Maybe from cost, availability, or whatever. I was even told by an NHRA employee that the thought behind it is the cars on tv don’t have a problem. Of course they are overlooking the fact they all use some sort of traction control. That is illegal in our class racing. Anyway sorry to get off subject of original thread

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Keith 944

Of course they are overlooking the fact they all use some sort of traction control. That is illegal in our class racing.

Oh, OK.

[Ron Ortiz]

Oh, BTW, Emerald Coast Dragway in Holt, FL just sold to auctioneers.

[Dave Gantz]

Originally Posted by Steve1118

Sarcastic, absolutely. Read your statement back to yourself, and think about it. A friend ran the Tri State S/SS series in PA and Ohio, and it folded from lack of support. He eventually allowed NMCA NSS cars, which carried it for a while, but eventually gave it up. Worked hard it, paid a good purse, too. The last event he had at a top notch facility, it drew 2 (two) legal class cars. And, the track never charged admission to the competitors, the circuit handled all of it. Frankly, and with all due respect, I think your attitude sums up a lot of the problem. A nine second A/SA is no more dependent on track prep than a 9 second S/Pro car. Everybody had better start pulling in the same direction.or track closures are going to be more numerous.

Thanks for clearing that up.
I was looking at it from the stand point that a S/SS driver, if at a test n tune, needs to know that the track is good, because they are looking for hundredths as they test.
No disrespect taken. We don’t know each other one.bit, and it’s tough writing ones feelings.
My partner and I loved the association races. I’d like to think we would’ve been there if we lived in the vicinity.

[Steve1118]

Look, and I do say this with all due respect. I'm 70 years old and have been involved in this game since 1964. My family bought new Hemi SS cars in 1964, I started in 1969 and, like an idiot is still messing with them now. I've been where you are at. This is not rocket science. You've got a leaf spring car or a coil car. Cal Tracs, maybe, a set of of Luneack's "Launcher" springs. Tweak the front end with alignment, a few other little tricks maybe. A lot of work goes into it, I know. But, I will never get the mindset where guys will buy a stacker, take a bunch of time off of work, drive 500 miles to make three passes, and not support the local guy and your friends and neighbors now and then. And then whine and complain when he finally locks the doors. Everyplace you guys race at keeps their bread buttered by doing something each week (except Pomona). Everyone needs to remermber that, or no one will have nowhere to race at.

[Doug Hoven]

I’m not sure a lack of attendance was entirely the issue with Atco. Every time I have been to atco, whether it be a Tuesday night T+T/Gamblers race, Friday T+T, or a Saturday/Sunday Summit ET program, the pits were almost always packed. About 75% of the test and tunes I attended, there were 4 or more full lanes of street cars, and sometimes 2 full lanes of race cars, and almost always a dozen bikes. After the run in with Atco and IAA a few years back, I figured it was a matter of time until the owner sold the track, regardless of car count. Being that I have a stocker that isn’t likely to have traction issue, I try my best to support the local tracks when there is no NHRA events on the schedule.