No Blinders

[Larry Hill]

I thought it was perceived that no mater what the deep stagers competition did staging, the starter would not activate the tree until the deep stager was ready.

It's not much of an advantage, but I believe it is an advantage.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Jody Lang, Toby Lang, Scott Welborn , and other assorted drivers that went rounds deep staging ……

,, Donnie Sabin #2 that year

[B/S 428]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Brian, I realize that you didn`t run Waldos old B/S Mustang all that much, but are you saying that when you did race it, you removed the 2 step from that car, or at least disconnected it?

Hi Rory, yes I did use the 2 step and that's one of the many reasons why I hardly ran it and I sold it....

[Mark Yacavone]

I know it's the silly season so bear with me.

The pre-stage light was put there for the driver in that lane's benefit..Nothing more.
Using it to red light or blue light a driver is beyond the scope of it's intended usage.
A typical NHRA over-reaction.

Turn off the blue light, the courtesy staging , the auto start, the time out, etc. and let the starter do his job (see Buster Couch)

How did we ever survive the 70's ?
Jerry McClanahan deep staged every round except the final, at the Amarillo World Finals...Nobody whined or complained or even said a word that I remember.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

M.J., old bud, I know that Stock isn't "stock" anymore but could you please point me in the direction of any "stock" car that came with or had as an option a 2 step?
I'd appreciate that. ;-)

And that Tru-Start stuff would be OK too! It kinda makes things "fair", doncha think?

Billy, cmon man . I love you like a brother. When I first raced my Camaro in 1994 a 2 step was legal . Twenty nine years later you just can’t decide they are no longer legal. I am all in for Tru- Start …I have no problem with that at all.

[Brett C]

Just when you think it's dead....it's alive!!!!!

[1347]

And now the NMCA just ruled the same way.
https://www.nmcadigital.com/blog/nmc...per-stock/2083

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Billy, cmon man . I love you like a brother. When I first raced my Camaro in 1994 a 2 step was legal . Twenty nine years later you just can’t decide they are no longer legal. I am all in for Tru- Start …I have no problem with that at all.

M.J., I don't care about the use of 2-steps one way or the other. Just using it as a "bargaining chip"! Tru-Start would sure win me a couple of rounds. I'm old ya know. :-)

If there was an illegal blinder installed and property damaged then fine them and give them a vacation ! Who are these clowns! Don’t punish everyone for the stupidity of one or two!
And on Two Steps….

How and why would you take away two steps after many years of running them. That’s BS!
Please Explain a bargaining chip Billy. With all due respect you cannot bargain for me.
It’s like I said before; this site does not set the standard for all Stock / Superstock racers.
I and M A N Y others like the two step. This will affect probably 85-90% of member paying racers.

Am I wrong ???

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Barry Polley

If there was an illegal blinder installed and property damaged then fine them and give them a vacation ! Who are these clowns! Don’t punish everyone for the stupidity of one or two!
And on Two Steps….

How and why would you take away two steps after many years of running them. That BS!
Please Explain a bargaining chip Billy. With all due respect you cannot bargain for me.
It’s like I said before; this site does not set the standard for all Stock / Superstock racers.
I and M A N Y others like the two step. This will affect probably 85-90% of member paying racers.

Am I wrong ???

Barry, If I might speak for Billy ( my brother from another mother)...
I think this is what he was alluding to:
About 20 years ago, when a few guys were deep staging and winning races, a few were trying to take them off their game, rather than minding their own business, and staging normally.
Supposedly NHRA took a vote, (I must have missed it) and the majority (most who didn't DS any way) voted to do away with the practice.
All the slower reacting cars and drivers wanted to do is leave on the third light flash...You know. kinda like the hard leaving, faster cars want to do with a blinder.
I seem to remember that the faster guys were no where to be found when sticking up for the little guys.
Some of them didn't even understand the concept, yet voted against it anyway.
What Billy and a few others (myself included) are saying is : Give us back deep staging and bring in Tru-Start, and we'll go to bat for you, this time.
So, far, I haven't seen one positive comment for our side, from the Give Us Back Our Blinders group.
You know, as long as I've been racing, it seems that the faster guys want to start out every game with two aces, dealt from the bottom of the deck ;-)