Grade Point Alternative

[Charley Downing]

What should bother you more is we pay $180-$200 entry fee for a points meet for NHRA to pay out $1000 (plus contingency lol). That’s what a 10-20% payback.

[1347]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

What should bother you more is we pay $180-$200 entry fee for a points meet for NHRA to pay out $1000 (plus contingency lol). That’s what a 10-20% payback.

In Division 1, our payout is 2000.00 to win, and 500.00 from ATI, did they not raise the purse in all divisions?

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by 1347

In Division 1, our payout is 2000.00 to win, and 500.00 from ATI, did they not raise the purse in all divisions?

I haven't cashed in for a couple years but I think it's still 1500 for D2 or it may be 1800.

[HR9121]

Charley I really like your business sense, your a true entrepreneur Mickey would've been proud. You saw a need and created a solution so well done lol.
I can tell you from experience on how stressful the situation can be. The last few years while taking time to run a business and raise young children I haven't been able to race as much as I like so I've had to make all kinds of deals to make sure I get into Charlotte and that's twice a year. It's stressful man so can you cut me some slack $1000 bucks is kinda steep. Maybe I could advertise for you in my "Live" reports or something with Ken's blessing of course. Hit me up man Charlotte will be here before we know it not too concerned with other races they always seem to drop below on Monday anyway.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by 1347

In Division 1, our payout is 2000.00 to win, and 500.00 from ATI, did they not raise the purse in all divisions?

Ha,ha, ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha ha. Ha. Ha …..I couldn’t help but laugh Duane …l believe D1 has the best payout ….

[Charley Downing]

Duane I'm not talking about any bonus payout programs that company's payout, contingences or added entry bonus. I'm talking about what NHRA gives you for winning vs your entry.

Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe some of our 2022 stk/ss points meet winners can confirm what there win check from NHRA was this past season.
But I'm pretty sure most NHRA points meets still payout $1000 to win stock and $1200 to win Superstock.

The last time I won a points meet in stk was in 2020 at Earlville D5
$170 entry fee and $1000 check for winning. So maybe this has changed in the past 24 months

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

I'm talking about what NHRA gives you for winning

NHRA Div. 1 CASH purse is $2000.
The last I looked, NHRA Natl. Event CASH purse was/is $1800.

[Jason Shepard]

I personally just finished my 3rd year of class racing, but I have been going with my dad since the late 80's. Back then, and through the 90's, there were no quota's. Wouldn't everyone benefit from no quota's? NHRA would make more money, racers with lower grade points could enter any event they choose. Some racers may never compete for a championship, but want a chance at a Wally 2 or 3 times a year. Why has NHRA established quota's? Interested in everyone's answers on this....

[Charley Downing]

Jason National event quota's I believe started to be published to racers around 2002-2003. before that you had to send NHRA a list of events you wanted to run at and there was an NHRA form you filled out each year for this, then they would approve or disapprove you for the events you requested based on how many grade points you had from the year before. Only down fall to this was NHRA did not tell you how many GP you need to run to be eligible for each national event. It was a guessing game for most. Back then the main unwritten rule was if you ran all your division races you were never denied entry to any national event.

But as we all know rig size grew from 20-24ft trailers and pickups to Toter homes and semi making parking/event space more of an issue. NHRA also claims staying on time with live TV time friday-sunday is there main reason for cutting sportsman entry numbers. (yes I know most of the TV time is not live, Its NHRA excuse not mine) Also with most national events being 3 days now, there is just not the time for 100 car sportsman fields without adding days on the front side of the event which NHRA clearly has no interest in doing.

I mean the easy fix is make these event quota's 80 cars and only take 64 for first round( all but U.S. Nationals ).

Plus side
No Bye runs
No 7 round events
put a little performance back in the class
No sand bagging because you would haft to qualify for the event
AHFS would actually have a chance to would work

Down side
Slow class racer crying they can't qualify
NHRA having to deal with how to get rid of extra revenue, while at the same time not giving it to the racers

The crazy part of this is if you did this at a race like the gators for stk and ss it will be $21,000 more revenue (an extra 30 stk entry's and 30 SS entry's x $350) for the event. It would only be 7 extra pair for round one in each class.

[Jason Shepard]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Jason National event quota's I believe started to be published to racers around 2002-2003. before that you had to send NHRA a list of events you wanted to run at and there was an NHRA form you filled out each year for this, then they would approve or disapprove you for the events you requested based on how many grade points you had from the year before. Only down fall to this was NHRA did not tell you how many GP you need to run to be eligible for each national event. It was a guessing game for most. Back then the main unwritten rule was if you ran all your division races you were never denied entry to any national event.

But as we all know rig size grew from 20-24ft trailers and pickups to Toter homes and semi making parking/event space more of an issue. NHRA also claims staying on time with live TV time friday-sunday is there main reason for cutting sportsman entry numbers. (yes I know most of the TV time is not live, Its NHRA excuse not mine) Also with most national events being 3 days now, there is just not the time for 100 car sportsman fields without adding days on the front side of the event which NHRA clearly has no interest in doing.

I mean the easy fix is make these event quota's 80 cars and only take 64 for first round( all but U.S. Nationals ).

Plus side
No Bye runs
No 7 round events
put a little performance back in the class
No sand bagging because you would haft to qualify for the event
AHFS would actually have a chance to would work

Down side
Slow class racer crying they can't qualify
NHRA having to deal with how to get rid of extra revenue, while at the same time not giving it to the racers

The crazy part of this is if you did this at a race like the gators for stk and ss it will be $21,000 more revenue (an extra 30 stk entry's and 30 SS entry's x $350) for the event. It would only be 7 extra pair for round one in each class.

Another crazy thing...I remember when ALL 7 rds were on Sunday. And they got the whole damn race in!! Other than weather being and issue. And fuel cars used to oil the track down way more back then. It just seems to me we could use what they did in the past and learn from it......

I do understand the rig size issue....