Good news! R&P Steering legal in SS/AH

[Truth Slayer]

Sounds like the racers that feel their connecting rods and other parts are gong to come out of the oil pan and damage steering components during a run should start with a more basic idea for safety.
Find a better engine builder. Or maybe an oil filter cutting tool and use it before the connecting rod does the job for you. Check a bearing here or there during the weekend.
Changing rules for a whole class to make up for a racer or 2 with sporadic engine trouble seems to be extreme.
What racers that run this class wrote the letters for this rule? I’m thinking the 2 guys on here that support it did, and the other guy who is speaking out doesn’t? They took the letters of 2 guys and made a major rule change? What does the other participants feel about this?

[James Hensler]

Originally Posted by Truth Slayer

Sounds like the racers that feel their connecting rods and other parts are gong to come out of the oil pan and damage steering components during a run should start with a more basic idea for safety.
Find a better engine builder. Or maybe an oil filter cutting tool and use it before the connecting rod does the job for you. Check a bearing here or there during the weekend.
Changing rules for a whole class to make up for a racer or 2 with sporadic engine trouble seems to be extreme.
What racers that run this class wrote the letters for this rule? I’m thinking the 2 guys on here that support it did, and the other guy who is speaking out doesn’t? They took the letters of 2 guys and made a major rule change? What does the other participants feel about this?

You can quote me right now

I did not ask anyone for a rule change! I have enough on my plate getting my engines freshened up! I am not changing over as of right now!

[Doug Walker]

Originally Posted by Truth Slayer

What does the other participants feel about this?

As I read the various comments as they get posted I can figure out just who is who by their names. Most of the time. Most of us know who is behind the stage names of SpyPhish, Dyno, Frito and SS/DA Hemi.

Others choose a name that is a total mystery. When the writer uses a stage name like Hacksaw, bubski or Truth Slayer, he gets to enjoy near total anonymity. They might be SS/AH participants or somehow involved in the class. We just don't know.

The comments may be well thought out but eventually get dismissed since nobody signed their name to the work.

[James Hensler]

Then there are some of us who could care less what people think and use our real names! I choose to be one of these posters. I say what I think and some maybe agree and some might not! If the NHRA did something performance related I would not be in favor but this rack thing is already allowed in GT cars and aren’t these most of the damn SS cars in the lanes? Seems to me they are so what’s the big deal. Our engines are maxed out there is no HP left to find! Ray and Charlie have found all there is!

[bigshow2966]

So they are allowing a QA-1 K-frame too?

I got no dog in this fight, but I do have an A-body with R&P steering buried in a stock k-frame. It's easy to put together, but does require a lot of thought to get rid of the bump steer. Mine has stock spindles but fabricated steering arms.

[Truth Slayer]

I didn’t see the replacement K Frame in the ruling. I guess this is a tubular piece? So you just show up with it and it’s golden? I figured that you just put the rack in the production K Frame. Now we need better frame for safety and ease of installation?

How about the guys that are afraid of blowing up engines and damaging the steering and suspension in the cars they are driving, build GT cars? Or just make the rules where the modifications only allowed to cars running in GT? Then all is solved.

Originally Posted by bigshow2966

So they are allowing a QA-1 K-frame too?

I got no dog in this fight, but I do have an A-body with R&P steering buried in a stock k-frame. It's easy to put together, but does require a lot of thought to get rid of the bump steer. Mine has stock spindles but fabricated steering arms.

[bigshow2966]

Originally Posted by Truth Slayer

I didn’t see the replacement K Frame in the ruling. I guess this is a tubular piece? So you just show up with it and it’s golden? I figured that you just put the rack in the production K Frame. Now we need better frame for safety and ease of installation?

I saw it in Dyno's last post. Not sure if he is serious or not?

[Dyno]

QA1 does make a great kit for the A -B and E body cars! However it would NOT be legal in Superstock. But it is similar to what is in all the small GM cars that are legal. But as was mentioned in many posts, if that is what you want to run, then build a car it IS legal in. I really do not think you will see many SS/AH cars converted to R&P.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Doug Walker

As I read the various comments as they get posted I can figure out just who is who by their names. Most of the time. Most of us know who is behind the stage names of SpyPhish, Dyno, Frito and SS/DA Hemi.

Others choose a name that is a total mystery. When the writer uses a stage name like Hacksaw, bubski or Truth Slayer, he gets to enjoy near total anonymity. .

Hacksaw is not a stage name, he is a real racer ….

[charlie westcott]

Originally Posted by Truth Slayer

Sounds like the racers that feel their connecting rods and other parts are gong to come out of the oil pan and damage steering components during a run should start with a more basic idea for safety.
Find a better engine builder. Or maybe an oil filter cutting tool and use it before the connecting rod does the job for you. Check a bearing here or there during the weekend.
Changing rules for a whole class to make up for a racer or 2 with sporadic engine trouble seems to be extreme.
What racers that run this class wrote the letters for this rule? I’m thinking the 2 guys on here that support it did, and the other guy who is speaking out doesn’t? They took the letters of 2 guys and made a major rule change? What does the other participants feel about this?

This made me laugh.
It always seems that the people that dont race, and/or dont get the results they desire after they think they tried hard enough, write letters to get rules changed. Thats the way its always been.
While it would be nice to not have to take the steering apart to take the pan off, I am not in favor of this. That steering is fairly beefy, for a reason. Those cars are heavy.
The rack off a tube car, or FWD conversion is likely not suited for wheelie landings in a 3200 lb car.
Hopefully you understand front end geometry enough to get the pickup points correct.