plugged hyd. lifters

ProfessorRock · 10-31-2022, 11:19 AM

Does anyone know who ? is still in the business of turning hyd. lifters into solids. no need to ask me why. lol

GTX JOHN · 10-31-2022, 02:11 PM

It is pretty easy to take them apart and shim them up.
You can do it yourself. I do not do shim them solid but
I do reduce the travel.

ProfessorRock · 10-31-2022, 03:51 PM

I need 100 of them . now who wants to do it.

ProfessorRock · 10-31-2022, 04:39 PM

Oh i already have the lifters.

J.R. Haddad · 10-31-2022, 07:57 PM

J. Allen Sherman's dad was always the go to guy for those. Someone here may have contact info.

JR

Larry Hill · 11-01-2022, 09:39 AM

What lifters are you modifying?

ProfessorRock · 11-01-2022, 11:41 AM

So i think its time to have a serious conversation about the problem that we are having right now with lifters and cam cores .Again --- this time its billet or steel cams and what kind of lifter material you are going to put on the billet cam. This is a problem only with flat tappets, so those using rollersmay not even be aware. So how many 'just stockers" using flats are there?? If u r one of those racers or eng. builders that have tried ordering a set of steel lifters to put on your steel cam, you know there are none ,zero avail. anywhere,and back ordered 6months or more. It seems to me that the eng. builders don't want to talk about it in public. (why? maybe they all think that their customers (racers) believe that their builder is the only one who knows how to get a bigger cam lobe and use more spring pressure than all the other guys. LMAO as its some big secret haha (it isn't). All the top builders know how to do it. So no one talks about it. But NOW its a problem for everyone. Want a new cam ,great heres one.$500 Example -Want some steel tappets to go on that fancy new cam- sorry Sic dont got any. Well we have just a couple sets coated with DLC cost$2200 or more.and if they bounce just one time they will destroy your engine. Not our fault. So i started this thread because i know a little bit about materials and coatings, not everything ,but a little. So why dont some of you builders who belong to Classracer get in this conversation and see if we can find a solution,because it is not going away anytime soon. I know this likely does not affect the cars with smaller engines or cam specs. that dont use a lot of spring pressure. But most do. So as much as us older guys don't like all the rule changes, allowing not original parts ,it might be time to have this discussion with NHRA to save the pre 1987 cars. Because all of the roller motors (engines) do not have this problem. as Mr. William said "tis not that i love Caesar less, but that i love Rome (classracing) more. I am posting this on top forum also.

ProfessorRock · 11-01-2022, 11:48 AM

Thanks men for offering help. but i dont think my first solution to this will work. The face is not hard enough for a billet cam core.

10-31-2022, 11:19 AM	#1
ProfessorRock Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: PHXarea. +Ohio Posts: 82 Likes: 27 Liked 48 Times in 24 Posts	plugged hyd. lifters Does anyone know who ? is still in the business of turning hyd. lifters into solids. no need to ask me why. lol __________________ Rocketmancoatings

10-31-2022, 02:11 PM	#2
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,733 Likes: 2,802 Liked 2,486 Times in 697 Posts	Re: plugged hyd. lifters It is pretty easy to take them apart and shim them up. You can do it yourself. I do not do shim them solid but I do reduce the travel. __________________ John Irving 741 Stock 741 Super Stock Last edited by GTX JOHN; 11-01-2022 at 01:01 PM.

10-31-2022, 03:51 PM	#3
ProfessorRock Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: PHXarea. +Ohio Posts: 82 Likes: 27 Liked 48 Times in 24 Posts	Re: plugged hyd. lifters I need 100 of them . now who wants to do it. __________________ Rocketmancoatings

10-31-2022, 04:39 PM	#4
ProfessorRock Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: PHXarea. +Ohio Posts: 82 Likes: 27 Liked 48 Times in 24 Posts	Re: plugged hyd. lifters Oh i already have the lifters. __________________ Rocketmancoatings

10-31-2022, 07:57 PM	#5
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 785 Likes: 939 Liked 1,469 Times in 308 Posts	Re: plugged hyd. lifters J. Allen Sherman's dad was always the go to guy for those. Someone here may have contact info. JR

11-01-2022, 09:39 AM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,643 Likes: 1,941 Liked 10,723 Times in 2,233 Posts	Re: plugged hyd. lifters What lifters are you modifying? __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

11-01-2022, 11:41 AM	#7
ProfessorRock Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: PHXarea. +Ohio Posts: 82 Likes: 27 Liked 48 Times in 24 Posts	Re: plugged hyd. lifters So i think its time to have a serious conversation about the problem that we are having right now with lifters and cam cores .Again --- this time its billet or steel cams and what kind of lifter material you are going to put on the billet cam. This is a problem only with flat tappets, so those using rollersmay not even be aware. So how many 'just stockers" using flats are there?? If u r one of those racers or eng. builders that have tried ordering a set of steel lifters to put on your steel cam, you know there are none ,zero avail. anywhere,and back ordered 6months or more. It seems to me that the eng. builders don't want to talk about it in public. (why? maybe they all think that their customers (racers) believe that their builder is the only one who knows how to get a bigger cam lobe and use more spring pressure than all the other guys. LMAO as its some big secret haha (it isn't). All the top builders know how to do it. So no one talks about it. But NOW its a problem for everyone. Want a new cam ,great heres one.$500 Example -Want some steel tappets to go on that fancy new cam- sorry Sic dont got any. Well we have just a couple sets coated with DLC cost$2200 or more.and if they bounce just one time they will destroy your engine. Not our fault. So i started this thread because i know a little bit about materials and coatings, not everything ,but a little. So why dont some of you builders who belong to Classracer get in this conversation and see if we can find a solution,because it is not going away anytime soon. I know this likely does not affect the cars with smaller engines or cam specs. that dont use a lot of spring pressure. But most do. So as much as us older guys don't like all the rule changes, allowing not original parts ,it might be time to have this discussion with NHRA to save the pre 1987 cars. Because all of the roller motors (engines) do not have this problem. as Mr. William said "tis not that i love Caesar less, but that i love Rome (classracing) more. I am posting this on top forum also. __________________ Rocketmancoatings

11-01-2022, 11:48 AM	#8
ProfessorRock Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: PHXarea. +Ohio Posts: 82 Likes: 27 Liked 48 Times in 24 Posts	Re: plugged hyd. lifters Thanks men for offering help. but i dont think my first solution to this will work. The face is not hard enough for a billet cam core. __________________ Rocketmancoatings

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