Lets Root Cause the Detriment of Class Racing

[Robbie Draughon]

I say do away with half pound classes. Make them a whole pound to move classes. Then you do away with half the classes. No where to run from a heads up. Run sticks and autos together also.

[Mike Volkman]

Originally Posted by Robbie Draughon

I say do away with half pound classes. Make them a whole pound to move classes. Then you do away with half the classes. No where to run from a heads up. Run sticks and autos together also.

Especially in GT. Don't know if you actually do in SS. Or another idea is to put all the Fuel Injection cars together.

I seen where Billy or Mark wrote - go to Indy with all you got, regardless if hit Monday or not. The motivation back then was to take the record off the other guy because he went .01 faster than you did. Be nice to run as fast as you can all the time. I had a blast at Columbus - because you could go as fast as you wanted, Indy and at Galot because it was 1/8 mile. If we had a chance i'd still take a shot, hp or not.

[Brad Zaskowski]

Originally Posted by SDS Inc

Especially in GT. Don't know if you actually do in SS. Or another idea is to put all the Fuel Injection cars together.

I seen where Billy or Mark wrote - go to Indy with all you got, regardless if hit Monday or not. The motivation back then was to take the record off the other guy because he went .01 faster than you did. Be nice to run as fast as you can all the time. I had a blast at Columbus - because you could go as fast as you wanted, Indy and at Galot because it was 1/8 mile. If we had a chance i'd still take a shot, hp or not.

You forgot to put a * In front of your suggestion of putting all the efi cars together to have it marked for potential personal agenda…. How would that help anything except make more alphabet soup classes?

[Mike Volkman]

Originally Posted by Brad Zaskowski

You forgot to put a * In front of your suggestion of putting all the efi cars together to have it marked for potential personal agenda…. How would that help anything except make more alphabet soup classes?

5 reasons

1. Not my idea. NHRA originally did it back when in stock and then separated back once field was somewhat level. They set the precedent.
2. Then, did it again when the drag packs and gm's and fords came out because they were so much faster than the others (who complained to nhra then)
3. And, they forgot to take the other older fuel injectors with them when they separated
4. The great disparity between many of the fi and carb vehicles are my reasons. (I do always gripe personally about how the 89-L98 350 and the 350/300 in SS have all the same components except ones carb and the other fi - but fi is rated at 275(?) and the 350/300 is at 313 or 318 depending about on the head - which Emily does not run against). Coming out of same shop. 10# break is 430 difference. Cant see the logic there.
5. I like watching races where its not a slaughter by one vehicle under rated. Not sure any one does. In my opinion, as long as the guys are within .1-.15 there's a fighting chance.

Lastly - wont make more classes. Roll them in w the fgt cars.

And no, its not about me or the 3 cars - now 4 - we run here. Love the sport and want to see good competition.

For your info - we run both combinations.

Side bar - While we are at it. I get emails from both Kent (div 1 srac) and Crutch (div 2 srac) along with surveys asking what the racers think. Can you add me to your mailing list? Thanks.

And why make it personnel? Goal is trying to make it better for all of us.

Volkman
412.651.2356

[PozQB14]

Originally Posted by Robbie Draughon

I say do away with half pound classes. Make them a whole pound to move classes. Then you do away with half the classes. No where to run from a heads up. Run sticks and autos together also.

Nailed it, except for the sticks and auto's. Thats a tough one. But think about it. Forget points and money incentives. Just going to the next round or being able to get throught a tough field of cars. Its so simple and Lonnie can make this happen over night. 1.) No more half point weight breaks for Stock and Super Stock (stock 69 ZL1 cars are already heavy enough), put them at 7# in AA and continue down from there. And GT cars can only run GT and natural super stock cars can only run SS. BOOM! You'll have more heads up runs in one year than the previous 5 years combined.

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Robbie Draughon

I say do away with half pound classes. Make them a whole pound to move classes. Then you do away with half the classes. No where to run from a heads up. Run sticks and autos together also.

I would have no problem with running the stick and auto cars together for class. Just use the current indexes and have a handicap start. First to the finish line wins. Similar to the combo class runs we have now. In my combo the stick and auto have different HP ratings and indexes. The stick combo is less HP. So no good way to run heads up.

Change for change sake is never a good thing. Changes to our class structure needs to be thoroughly thought out. Personally I dont see any of these proposed changes helping stock or super stock. The guys with fast and under factored cars will always play the game to protect their combos. I cant blame them.

I have a slow car and it is an un-competitive combo. I qualify at the bottom half of the sheet most of the time. I do have a fun time racing and I did win a divisional race here in D2 this season.