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Old 08-01-2022, 06:23 PM   #1
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Good tread and a lot of good information for a stock eliminator hopefully.

after years of running Comp and being a sideshow in Top Dragster, I'm wanting to get back to real racing. I am a lot better bottom bulb racer than I am a box racer. I started in Comp.

What is the thought on consistency in slower cars when a turbocharger is involved? I am putting together an AF/S Dodge Daytona. I will use a Holley ECM.
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Old 08-01-2022, 09:36 PM   #2
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I apologize because I didn't read all the responses, but...Didn't take long to see Jody Lang's name come up. I think most of us can agree he is the John Daly of stock elim. How many people watching a PGA on TV would think John Daly could ever win a major? Years of experience and handling pressure just like J.L. My swoopy 99 Camaro is one of the most consistent 1/4 mile cars I've ever owned. It just doesn't care about slight tail or head winds (it just needs a good driver) I see people asking about what stocker should I buy? My answer is always the same....The fastest one you can't afford!
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Old 08-01-2022, 09:55 PM   #3
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Didnt a slow Super Stocker win Seattle ?
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Old 08-05-2022, 12:48 PM   #4
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Good tread and a lot of good information for a stock eliminator hopefully.

after years of running Comp and being a sideshow in Top Dragster, I'm wanting to get back to real racing. I am a lot better bottom bulb racer than I am a box racer. I started in Comp.

What is the thought on consistency in slower cars when a turbocharger is involved? I am putting together an AF/S Dodge Daytona. I will use a Holley ECM.
I'd say no, not a good idea..Overpowered turbo car with a stick? Not gonna be consistent.
Another problem ..Not fast enough, but on the other hand, not "slow" enough.
Sounds confusing but I can explain further if you want.
I'd say, if you're a died in the wool Mopar guys, find a newer EFI stick car that runs DF/S or EF/S.That's your best shot at turning on some win lights against 8, 9 and 10 second cars.
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Old 08-05-2022, 05:54 PM   #5
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I'd say no, not a good idea..Overpowered turbo car with a stick? Not gonna be consistent.
Another problem ..Not fast enough, but on the other hand, not "slow" enough.
Sounds confusing but I can explain further if you want.
I'd say, if you're a died in the wool Mopar guys, find a newer EFI stick car that runs DF/S or EF/S.That's your best shot at turning on some win lights against 8, 9 and 10 second cars.
Got me thinking why I picked what I picked. Just exactly why did one guy pick a combo. I'm talking about back when we first got started? How many of us made stupid choices? Personally, I just knew that I wanted a car that was faster than I had ever been in. I certainly didn't want to race something that was slower than my street driven car. In highschool I was driving a 1969 L-88 Camaro back and forth to high school.Set of 4.88's and a set of Hookers made that baby a handful.Bought it with my paper route money. 11.80's @ 116. In today's world it would be a slug. A few years later I purchased one of John Lingenfelter's 383 package Corvettes that I drove back and forth to work. 11.50's. That car was a ball as I hid a delay box in the center console, wired in 4 wheel line locks and ran Super Pro with it. There is something about driving to the track with the Bose stereo blaring, taking out Super Comp and Super Gas cars all day long, then driving home with the prize money. I honestly picked my "real race car" because it did big wheel stands and was faster than I was driving for transportation. You guys bring up a lot of valad points though..
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Old 08-09-2022, 06:48 PM   #6
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Got me thinking why I picked what I picked. Just exactly why did one guy pick a combo. I'm talking about back when we first got started? How many of us made stupid choices? Personally, I just knew that I wanted a car that was faster than I had ever been in. I certainly didn't want to race something that was slower than my street driven car. In highschool I was driving a 1969 L-88 Camaro back and forth to high school.Set of 4.88's and a set of Hookers made that baby a handful.Bought it with my paper route money. 11.80's @ 116. In today's world it would be a slug. A few years later I purchased one of John Lingenfelter's 383 package Corvettes that I drove back and forth to work. 11.50's. That car was a ball as I hid a delay box in the center console, wired in 4 wheel line locks and ran Super Pro with it. There is something about driving to the track with the Bose stereo blaring, taking out Super Comp and Super Gas cars all day long, then driving home with the prize money. I honestly picked my "real race car" because it did big wheel stands and was faster than I was driving for transportation. You guys bring up a lot of valad points though..
What no Matty Box?
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Old 08-09-2022, 07:01 PM   #7
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Just maybe a veteran racer like Lyn Smith with his fancy new Q/SA '55 can ruffle a few feathers next year. I hope so.
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Old 08-09-2022, 07:07 PM   #8
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What no Matty Box?
Actually it's funny you ask. The guy that kept beating me was one of the dirty dozen.I did beat him in a final but he beat me like a red headed step child for two summers before I finally got around him.
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Jeff,
I'm glad that you took my friendly dig in a good natured way. The Dirty Dozen.............I hate those guys.
The Matty Box is a crude and primitive tool compared with what's out there today, and good grief its hard to detect.


Sorry to stray from this thread's intent.

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This weekend was a NHRA Open @ Bremerton Raceway. We only had 10 Stock and Super Stockers show up for the combo. Here is the list of cars.

1 u/sa 72 comet
2 gt/la 91 olds calais
3 l/sa 65 valiant
4 t/sa 72 maverick
5 w/sa 76 pinto wagon
6 i/sa 66 chevelle
7 u/sa 79 mustang
8 p/sa 89 mustang
9 ss/la 76 roadrunner
10 n/sa 74 grand am

At the 1st race on Sat the winner was the u/sa 79 mustang of Gary Gandee, jr. Sunday's race was won by Darrick Ellam in his w/sa 76 Pinto Wagon.

Yes, Bremerton is an 1/8 mile track, but a win is still a win. Congrats to slow cars winning.
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