Who Gets The Bye at National Opens?

rk3800 · 05-30-2022, 09:20 PM

No heads up and buybacks, I'm just getting overwhelmed by your ideas, I hope you're just trying to stir the POT.

Frank Castros · 05-30-2022, 09:25 PM

First round Ladder determined by final Qualifying.

L.Fite · 05-30-2022, 09:52 PM

No heads up and buybacks, I'm just getting overwhelmed by your ideas, I hope you're just trying to stir the POT.

If you think that's something...
Wait till they introduce the third round lottery!...

Jeff Stout · 05-30-2022, 11:05 PM

There are 2 types of racing formats being used. Bracket style and class style. First round bye due to last car in line is fine. That car can not have a chance for a bye run until all cars still in have had a bye run.
Now class is from a ladder and #1 gets bye if odd number of cars. And when using ladder you can have lots of bye runs depending on ladder and car breakage.
So having both styles introduced a predetermined rule needs to be in written when the rules of eliminations were written for event.
If first round is #1 qualifier and he wins and gets second round bye then make it clear up front.
My opinion is #1 gets his bye run in second round and first round can be however you want. Random, or reaction time on last time run. Clear as mud.

4543 · 05-31-2022, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

There are 2 types of racing formats being used. Bracket style and class style. First round bye due to last car in line is fine. That car can not have a chance for a bye run until all cars still in have had a bye run.
Now class is from a ladder and #1 gets bye if odd number of cars. And when using ladder you can have lots of bye runs depending on ladder and car breakage.
So having both styles introduced a predetermined rule needs to be in written when the rules of eliminations were written for event.
If first round is #1 qualifier and he wins and gets second round bye then make it clear up front.
My opinion is #1 gets his bye run in second round and first round can be however you want. Random, or reaction time on last time run. Clear as mud.

Jeff, If you think we have trouble getting people to the lanes noe, give the last car in line the bye run. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

Frank Beasley · 05-31-2022, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rk3800

No heads up and buybacks, I'm just getting overwhelmed by your ideas, I hope you're just trying to stir the POT.

What do you have against heads up runs?

05-30-2022, 09:25 PM	#2
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,961 Likes: 2,550 Liked 2,694 Times in 951 Posts	Re: Who Gets The Bye at National Opens? First round Ladder determined by final Qualifying.

05-30-2022, 09:52 PM	#3
L.Fite Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 512 Likes: 544 Liked 494 Times in 241 Posts	Re: Who Gets The Bye at National Opens? No heads up and buybacks, I'm just getting overwhelmed by your ideas, I hope you're just trying to stir the POT. If you think that's something... Wait till they introduce the third round lottery!...

05-30-2022, 11:05 PM	#4
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,486 Likes: 66 Liked 704 Times in 281 Posts	Re: Who Gets The Bye at National Opens? There are 2 types of racing formats being used. Bracket style and class style. First round bye due to last car in line is fine. That car can not have a chance for a bye run until all cars still in have had a bye run. Now class is from a ladder and #1 gets bye if odd number of cars. And when using ladder you can have lots of bye runs depending on ladder and car breakage. So having both styles introduced a predetermined rule needs to be in written when the rules of eliminations were written for event. If first round is #1 qualifier and he wins and gets second round bye then make it clear up front. My opinion is #1 gets his bye run in second round and first round can be however you want. Random, or reaction time on last time run. Clear as mud.

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05-30-2022, 09:20 PM	#1
rk3800 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 187 Likes: 0 Liked 101 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Who Gets The Bye at National Opens? No heads up and buybacks, I'm just getting overwhelmed by your ideas, I hope you're just trying to stir the POT.